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  1. #21
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    Epsil's Avatar
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    Epsil Ion
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50


    Bye bye Fake Rogue/Thief glamour look ; ;
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  2. #22
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    N'hara Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    It's a translation thing. The Japanese version simply calls it, "sword user", so daggers being part of their arsenal was out of place in the inception. Maybe it's a throwback from 1.0?
    It is. I remember 1.0 Gladiators being advertised as masters of one-handed bladed weapons, but that was also back when Gladiators weren't also paired with shields (as Sentinel was a sub-class specifically for shields). They eventually got moved into being the sword-and-shield tank class we have now, but the daggers stayed. Now that Rogue/NIN is being released, they don't need daggers anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    Dear, SE,

    Please make a Harry Potter class so that white mages don't have to use wands ever again.

    Thank you.

    Yours truly, Elim.
    I pray for this all the time. I hate one-handed casting weapons and mage shields.

    Quote Originally Posted by Epsil View Post


    Bye bye Fake Rogue/Thief glamour look ; ;
    That's actually really cool looking. But hey, now you can be an actual Rogue/Thief.
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  3. #23
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    Cherie's Avatar
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holyhunter View Post
    what do Macuahuitls have to do with pirates?
    It was just a funny line from the movie "Pirates of the Caribbean" that I remember.

    Captain Jack Sparrow's sword gets taken away... "Well, I half expected it to be made of wood!"

    I realize that Macuahuitls are completely different though.
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  4. #24
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    Madeye Moxie
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 70
    This is the peril of designing classes around their weapons. We can't have any actual variety due to the system. The glamour system didn't help us in this regard either because you still can't wear anything that your class cannot already wear. So if for RP/aesthetic reasons you wanted to wear say...ilvl 90 Bard gear and a dagger....well tough.

    When they made classes defined by the weapons they have, they should have made all armor/clothes glamourable.
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  5. #25
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    Algin's Avatar
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    Algin Rathan
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    IF the spathas were good for Byzantine cataphracts and gladii were good enough for roman legions, well, they could be good for paladins/guardians too
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    It's a translation thing. The Japanese version simply calls it, "sword user", so daggers being part of their arsenal was out of place in the inception. Maybe it's a throwback from 1.0?
    Yes. It was the Tanaka team that gave Gladiator daggers. Maybe because they are like swords one-handed blade weapons.
    Yoshida talked already during 1.0 about removing daggers from the gladiator to give them thief (now rogue) if the class come someday.
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    Arias Lightbearer
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    Dunno, I guess it doesn't matter... a bastard sword though? That's the name of one of the replacement blades. It seems a bit much to use one handed.... lol
    Bastard swords are shorter than longswords but longer than shortswords. They're single-handed weapons.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    Sad we're losing the Spatha/Gladius swords because they actually do look pretty and are fitting of the "Gladiator" class.
    afaik, we're not losing Spatha. I honestly wouldn't mind if they kept the Gladii, but I'm glad they're getting rid of daggers. They just seemed so out of place.
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    Last edited by TheRogueX; 07-07-2014 at 11:27 PM.

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    Knives Jonquil
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    Rogue Lv 100
    I... I liked the knives, though... sad day for me.
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  9. #29
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    Jay'nes Alexander
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Please tell me only rogues are using daggers and not ninjas.

    Ninjas with daggers? Really?
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  10. #30
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    Aegis Elisus
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    Bastard swords are shorter than longswords but longer than shortswords. They're single-handed weapons.

    I believe they're actually longer than longswords but shorter than great/2h swords.

    They could be used with either one or two hands due to the length of the pommel.

    Edit: The internets agree with me
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    Last edited by Aegis; 07-08-2014 at 12:30 AM.

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