SMN's Egi Appearances ~ one final, humble request

[Blackcanary]

I'm curious why we are called summoners when we're not even "summoners".

It's stupid.

Ur right what we really are is Warlocks.

[Giantbane]

I was watching somebody run around as an ACN yesterday. The art for carbuncle is much cleaner, more detailed, and the animations are much more expressive than any of the Egi's.

Ifrit is "ok" (still not as good as Carbuncle), but Titan and Garuda just look like elemental blobs. It's disappointing that the SMN Job stone means lower quality art on the pets.

[Dwill]

I'd still rather they made us be actual Final Fantasy summoners

The "look" of the Egi models is not the main problem here.

Final Fantasy summoners works because it's a single player game. In a MMORPG, it,s a different thing. You just can't summon a pet once every so often to do a big AoE attack then it leaves the field. Summoners in the Final Fantasy world aren't known to have consistency either on how they operate.

For example, take Rydia from FFIV and compare her to Eiko/Garnet from FFIX. All of them can summon but Eiko/Garnet are healers and Rydia is a master of black magic.

People asking for a "Final Fantasy summoner" should actually look at the history of summoners in the Final Fantasy world before asking such a thing.

instead of World of Warcraft warlocks.

Ur right what we really are is Warlocks.

People need to realize that Blizzard did not invent the pet class with DoTs. Everquest with Necromancer and DAoC with Cabalist are two classes that had this concept before WoW. Why shouldn't Square Enix have the right to use it as well ?

[Jamez82]

Necro in eq wasnt a pet class they were a dot class with a skellie everyone in the game just called a long term dot.

Magicians were the pet class, and they were pet classes done right.

Ugh... spent 9 years playing that game, makes me sad how much time I spent on it because I was so addicted to it.

[Dwill]

Necro in eq wasnt a pet class they were a dot class with a skellie everyone in the game just called a long term dot.

You know you just described a pet class right ?

[Xandim]

Actually that's what summoners are slowly becoming. FFX, FFXI, FFXII and FFXIII use a system equal to FFXIV (actually its otherwise but w/e =P) in which the summons stay for a while. But it would be stupid in an online game to ditch everyone for the summon! But on regards to the appearance... Yeah, they could be better, but as someone else pointed out, maybe they will get better with lv cap increase (getting better at summoning and stuff like that) or they will stay like this forever and we just need to get over it, xD

my 2 cents anyway! xD

[ArmorKing]

I'm not sure why a middle ground can't be reached?

Why not have the Egis "hulk out" when we use Spur and/or Rouse? For a short time, they can capture more of the primal essence and mimic their true form via these abilities.

And with limit breaks, we could see them swell to their true size/form in order to execute the LBs.

It can be done.

[Kaethra]

I'm not sure why a middle ground can't be reached?

Why not have the Egis "hulk out" when we use Spur and/or Rouse? For a short time, they can capture more of the primal essence and mimic their true form via these abilities.

And with limit breaks, we could see them swell to their true size/form in order to execute the LBs.

It can be done.

This is actually a pretty good idea. I like the idea of Summoners getting a different LB than Black Mages. Black Mages perform Meteor and Summoners use their summoned monster's signature ability. Maybe even have the primal's model replace the Egi for the execution of the LB.

[Zenaku]

I'm not sure why a middle ground can't be reached?

Why not have the Egis "hulk out" when we use Spur and/or Rouse? For a short time, they can capture more of the primal essence and mimic their true form via these abilities.

And with limit breaks, we could see them swell to their true size/form in order to execute the LBs.

It can be done.

Ya i agree but the issue is in lore wise we have a limit amount of aether which allow us to summon a small % of primal that we can control. I see as time goes by and the stronger we get the more and more aether we can use up to summon a more powerful primal that can still be under our control.

Remember they still going to add where FC can find something in the open world which allow us to fight a primal. Which if your lucky enough to be the first to win and get enough aether you could summon the full power of a primal under your FC control and use them for a fight.

[Mcshiggs]

I'm not sure why a middle ground can't be reached?

Why not have the Egis "hulk out" when we use Spur and/or Rouse? For a short time, they can capture more of the primal essence and mimic their true form via these abilities.

And with limit breaks, we could see them swell to their true size/form in order to execute the LBs.

It can be done.

This would mean that summoners would have 3 limit break animations to everyone else's 1, or 3 per tier, then they would have to add more with each egi released, I don't see them doing this, I could see them using a summons that they don't plan on releasing as primals or egis though, or my original idea, have the summoner LB be summoning a black mage that does meteor.