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  1. #121
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Shichi Mamura
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    I thought this was final? Why, after 15 days, has it resurfaced?
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  2. #122
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    SE any word about visually improved forms coming about eventually as a result of a lvl cap increase or expansion?!
    Some people just can't no for an answer it seems.
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  3. #123
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    So after posting endlessly in the Rework Summoner thread, I came to the conclusion this topic needs revisiting.

    Even if you've already said no SE, I think you must change your answer somehow, for FF-Justice.

    There's a reason SMN's have been & currently are such a hot debate topic on these forums & I bet if you polled the whole of the player-base you'd get very mixed reviews.

    I believe one thing we can almost all agree upon is improved Egi appearances (a little more detail, a littler larger) wouldn't hurt & would in fact, be welcome.

    In all my postings, I feel I hit upon the primary issue with ARR's SMN quite well... classic FF Summoners were all about SPECTACLE, there is practically none with our SMN. This is a result of 3 questionable design decisions:

    1) DoT-centric sustained damage dealer.
    2) lack of awesome aesthetic prowess.
    3) baby booger/potato 'pets' instead of almighty, mythical beings.

    The core design of SMN is mostly unlikely to change... so changing #1 is out.

    Changing both #'s 2 & 3 together would go a VERY LONG way.

    Now we've fought Lore like crazy, we're stuck with these marginal Pets instead of awesome Summons... I think we'll just have to deal with that.

    However...

    I) A slight increase in scale & level-of-detail for the Egi's would do wonders.

    Also, part of the problem is how we need these Egi's to feel powerful... and numbers are less integral than animations/spell-effects.

    II) Improved Enkindle/Egi Spell/Rouse/Spur Animations would do wonders also.

    Give us that feeling of Awesome Power.

    You don't have to blow up our screens, just do things like wrap Ifrit Egi in a swirling inferno, have him roar, have his claws rip the air in crimson stripes... Garuda Egi gusts, screams, & tornadoes... Titan Egi boulders, slams, & shouts... etc.

    SE, even if you won't budge on their appearance (which you really should, at least a little)... return that SPECTACLE to the Job.

    Give us the Summoner not which we deserve, but which Final Fantasy deserves.

    #forFFjustice
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    Last edited by Parz3val; 08-29-2014 at 02:00 AM.

  4. #124
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    Ifrit is cool.



    Look at him, just floating there all badass. You wish you could be that awesome.



    Nope, no myspace camera angles here.
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  5. #125
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    I'm patient, I think adding job quests in the expansion to either upgrade old Egi's look, spur upgrading look temporarily, or some tier 2 elder and primal temporary mechanic would work. Since changing them without giving a reason ("just changes") is awkward, but as long as we are in the realm of (essence) of (primal-x) then a little bit of story and level cap could explain the change.

    I'd greatly welcome that.. I find all the should SMN be a DD, should they be pure pet, ect ect, fascinating topics.. but just going through every FF and then seeing XIV's version is a bit disappointing. Doesn't feel like a fan service, perhaps that wasn't their goal, but as a fan I'm not impressed by the two Egis in the slightest. Ifrit Egi is alright, I'd like to see some sort of Spur/Bestial Wrath mode where he really flares up (temporarily) but he still isn't bad.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    I thought this was final? Why, after 15 days, has it resurfaced?
    You'd wish, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    So after posting endlessly in the Rework Summoner thread, I came to the conclusion this topic needs revisiting.

    Even if you've already said no SE, I think you must change your answer somehow, for FF-Justice.
    Oh, wait. Wish denied. I feel this topic is like an annoyingly underpowered white mage boss that right before you kill keeps blowing off Benedictions just to have to delay the inevitable for a bit more time.
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  7. #127
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    Isn't it against the rules to necro threads?
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Isn't it against the rules to necro threads?
    No, it's not.

    Either way, posting off-topic could be seen as in an equally 'grey area'.
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    Last edited by Parz3val; 08-29-2014 at 03:02 AM.

  9. #129
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    Its too late for the current egis, but theres still hope that the next batch will be aesthetically pleasing. I think there was a leaked model for Ramuh....it looked decent.
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  10. #130
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Its too late for the current egis, but theres still hope that the next batch will be aesthetically pleasing. I think there was a leaked model for Ramuh....it looked decent.
    I don't want them to change Titan Mcnugget. I mean, look at him! He even has tater tots orbiting around him.
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