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  1. #21
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    ive been thinking about suggesting our DDs bring throwing weapons for the ogre.

    mauraders/lancers/pugilists main weapons are not the only way for them to do damage. granted there are disadvantages to using throwing weapons, but there are advantages as well. the only thing holding me back from suggesting this is that, being a glad main, i do not have experience using throwing weapons.

    but currently, i am suggesting more proper positioning as i have noticed that the ogre will only use the elbow drop move if someone is standing behind it. much like a spike flail, but you dont need to pull hate to trigger it. that being said, in theory it could be mitigated with throwing weapons.

    dunno, just trying to think outside the box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeowyWowie View Post
    I can't see it taking more than 1 run to figure it out. Use an ability as he's readying Inferno Drop, if it interrupts it you got it, if not try something else. It doesn't require any "special" skill and you'll likely shoot yourself in the foot for not realizing it before.
    I'll be sure to try that next time every ARC and mage in my LS quits.

    ive been thinking about suggesting our DDs bring throwing weapons for the ogre.
    Same deal, they will want the real ranged DDs, not the makeshifts.
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  3. #23
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    lol, wait what? ARCs are now a required part of an ogre party? our group had one ARC and i only kept him in because he is a good friend of mine. imo THM dot damage is still > all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post
    I'll be sure to try that next time every ARC and mage in my LS quits.
    FYI, ARC can stun it too. So even if you're doing a cheese run, AKA: ARC party, you can still do some trial and error.
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    It's not exactly hard to figure out SE's vision when a brain is utilized.

    Jobs are coming, and in the current scenario Archer will take the role of a buffer as Bard. This basically means that Archer's DD potential is at an all-time high and won't see much improvement when the Jobs are introduced (aside from buffs that affect everyone). Other DD's, PUGs MRDs and LNCs have yet to meet their full DD potential as Monks, Dark knights and Dragoons. And when the encounters are balanced with this in mind, an Archer (or Bard) as a DD simply won't cut it anymore. You will need heavy weapons (buffed by Bards) to make a dint to the bosses in a reasonable timeframe.

    It's certainly not the developers who lack a vision. The players, however, could use some glasses to see further than up their nose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    It's not exactly hard to figure out SE's vision when a brain is utilized.

    Jobs are coming, and in the current scenario Archer will take the role of a buffer as Bard. This basically means that Archer's DD potential is at an all-time high and won't see much improvement when the Jobs are introduced (aside from buffs that affect everyone). Other DD's, PUGs MRDs and LNCs have yet to meet their full DD potential as Monks, Dark knights and Dragoons. And when the encounters are balanced with this in mind, an Archer (or Bard) as a DD simply won't cut it anymore. You will need heavy weapons (buffed by Bards) to make a dint to the bosses in a reasonable timeframe.

    It's certainly not the developers who lack a vision. The players, however, could use some glasses to see further than up their nose.
    We are supposed to play the game now because in 3 months SE won't screw us over anymore? You are tanaka-smart!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post
    We are supposed to play the game now because in 3 months SE won't screw us over anymore? You are tanaka-smart!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    Gondai: We’ll continue to break up what we’re working on over a number of patches, first 1.18 and then 1.19, and so on. It’d be impossible to release everything all at once. But I hope people won’t judge us too harshly on that, saying stuff like “Is this all there is to patch 1.18?!” It might not be for us to say, but I think things are going smoother than we expected, so please wait just a bit longer.
    You're playing an unofficial beta, they really don't care if the remaining 15k players are that content right now, they have a lot of shit to do to make this game good, and they're going to do it either way.
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  9. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post
    We are supposed to play the game now because in 3 months SE won't screw us over anymore? You are tanaka-smart!
    You are supposed to act as guinea pigs so SE can balance the game right, and oh boy how good test subjects you are indeed!
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    im surprised people havent taken a liking to trying out the ranged weapons for gla pug lnc and mrd, but if you are one of thos players who lieks to gothe extra mile and be a little smarter about things they are ideal, if for nothing but the final boss for tp and quicking going in the do your ws's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    You are supposed to act as guinea pigs so SE can balance the game right, and oh boy how good test subjects you are indeed!
    Sad part is their experiments come once every 3 months and the guinea pigs are clearly better at interpreting the results than them.
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