PLD Cross Class Skills

[JTribal]

Hey hey!

Just curious - What does everyone use for their cross class skills as a PLD?

I have the following -

Bloodbath - This isn't nearly as useful as it is on WAR, and typically results in minimal HP recovery.

Protect - This really doesn't get used at all. The only time I do use it is outside of battle when I'm doing beast tribe stuff or Fates, or when I'm doing a four man run and there's a SCH that forgets to throw Protect on the party.

Stoneskin - I could probably utilize this a bit better for end game raiding, but honestly I don't think about it too much because the healers I am with are pretty on point.

Fracture - I usually use this right before Tank swaps when the other Tank is taking over, as it gives me a bit of a DPS boost to make up for damage lost when I stop doing a full RoH combo. This lets the other Tank get a good lead in hate after Provoking. Either that, or right when a boss is pulled if I'm not MT.

Foresight - I only use this when I need a boost in defense, but the difference is not really notable unless I'm missing something.

Anyone use something else that helps them more?

Also, feel free to throw in any suggestions if you think I could be utilizing these a bit better.

[Jubez187]

They're all really sucky and situational. PLD is a mess right now. It's a hackjob of a class. They couldn't even give us Esuna? rofl

[krazyrs]

i use stoneskin,foresight,bloodbath,mercy stroke,fracture

mercy stroke and bloddbath are just macro'd into fast blade so there used asap

all sad choices tho

[Kitru]

They couldn't even give us Esuna? rofl

Cleanses are a healer specific mechanic. Giving Esuna to a non-healer would be like giving Provoke to a DPS: it's an ability that is not part of their role.

[Jubez187]

Cleanses are a healer specific mechanic. Giving Esuna to a non-healer would be like giving Provoke to a DPS: it's an ability that is not part of their role.

nah

/10char

[JonBigwood]

Cure and protect for playing solo, quests, maps etc. Not for group play, so you would have to change them depending on needs.

Mercy Stroke is more useful than you would think, it's an extra off GCD attack and sometimes a nice heal, and it pops up more than it seems at first sight.

I don't use Fracture with the PLD.

Stoneskin, Bloodbath, Foresight, yes.

[Thaliss]

Cure and protect for playing solo, quests, maps etc. Not for group play, so you would have to change them depending on needs.

Mercy Stroke is more useful than you would think, it's an extra off GCD attack and sometimes a nice heal, and it pops up more than it seems at first sight.

I don't use Fracture with the PLD.

Stoneskin, Bloodbath, Foresight, yes.

same it is all about Solo/group

[kukurumei]

#1:Stoneskin is absolutely essential. Anyone who tells you it's not is a hack and probably spends more time blaming other members then realizing it's their own shortcomings.

There's so many ways and circumstances and all around goodness to stoneskin it's not funny.

#2: Foresight. Extra 5%ish reduction here and there is nice and better then nothing. And almost everything 2.2 are physical big hits anyway, so worthy of use.

#3 Bloodbath...eh...it's decent... for solo about it

#4 Mercy stroke that damage can help..slightly... bees (oh how i hate bees then a bulb...every gcd helps then) in t6 and super slug is really glad to have it there. the split GCD from success or a wipe can cut it close.

#5 fracture...use as a self timer. Popping a fracture in there gives you an internal clock depending on how important the timing is. Most useful in Twintainia(very well when you aren't pro at DS), but otherwise kinda just left rotting once you get the fight down or just over gear it.

[Kydi]

How important are crossed class skills at endgame? I've just started (27gla/15cnj) and will eventually go paladin for endgame raiding. However, do I need to make sure I have all cross class skills before I can really start any more difficult content? My next plan in any case is a dragoon, so that will get me up the warrior abilities at least for mercy strike (I might as well go the extra distance above 15).

[kukurumei]

How important are crossed class skills at endgame? I've just started (27gla/15cnj) and will eventually go paladin for endgame raiding. However, do I need to make sure I have all cross class skills before I can really start any more difficult content? My next plan in any case is a dragoon, so that will get me up the warrior abilities at least for mercy strike (I might as well go the extra distance above 15).

Besides stoneskin they're very low on the "should have" scale.

Foresight you get in 15minutes so that's something you should have with little to no effort.

Besides those 2 the last 3 make marginal difference.

It probably takes more work to use stoneskin effectively then getting it, but you become a better pld for it. So the earlier you get it the more experience you have with it.

Tanking Titan HM is probably the first test of working stoneskin into your battle style. Bombs and MB hit just hard enough that stoneskin is something that can make or break you in some parties.