macros: bad for DPS?

[Odett]

Learn to use R1 effectively to toggle between bars on a controller and you'll see that you will always have extra room for skills. Using macros for rotations is is a DPS decrease. Apart from the longer activation, it can kill your flexibility. Comfort is not what raises your DPS output, it's reacting appropriately to what is going on in a fight and keeping your rotation up.

[SarcasmMisser]

I can't believe someone would macro their umbral rotation, not only is it a situational rotation thats impossible to macro due to mana regen timing but what do you do if you have to move? Not to mention you're a Black Mage, your rotation is not hard and you're wasting your spell speed.

You are guaranteed to be a terrible damage dealer.

[Morningstar1337]

I can't believe someone would macro their umbral rotation, not only is it a situational rotation thats impossible to macro due to mana regen timing but what do you do if you have to move? Not to mention you're a Black Mage, your rotation is not hard and you're wasting your spell speed.

You are guaranteed to be a terrible damage dealer.

Having a macro and using are two different things. I more often gonna use it when soloing or under rare circumstances then in team instances.

[Fantasy9]

I use two macros on my BRD. One is for silence that I had setup for Coil and the other is for all my buffs. The one for my buffs is actually faster than activating each one individually.

[Zephyranthes]

Only bards can macro DPS and not lose effectively.

[Hali]

How do people struggle so much with fight mechanics that they require hardware macros to be set up? No fight in this game requires much thought capacity to dodge 1 hit mechanics (possibly mechanics in T9's Divebomb phase, but still not a lot of thought is required). The game's main system is based around memorising a set pattern of events. If you really need a a button to do all your DPS, whilst you focus on dodging, I really do pity you.

[Amberyl]

How do people struggle so much with fight mechanics that they require hardware macros to be set up?

I don't know - perhaps ask them, rather than being so flippant? People wouldn't do it if they didn't think they needed to. I'm not defending macro use, or debating it's ethics. I'm simply pointing out someone who is being too harsh to the other posters in this thread, based on an ideal that isn't as real as he thinks it is.

Razer wouldn't be able to sell a large chunk of it's product range if that weren't the case.

What you really should be asking yourself, is does the current system work, and is it fair to all? Not judging people based on an assumed standard.

[Dano]

I only use macro for my off GCD skills and I stack them in a single macro so I can fire them in between GCDs.

I think it's just inefficient to macro GCD skills, especially on a melee combo because depending on the situation you might need to change your rotation on the fly or interrupt to dodge something, it's better to muscle memorize your rotations and input manually.

a good class to start with this practice is monk.

[Amberyl]

I think it's just inefficient to macro GCD skills, especially on a melee combo because depending on the situation you might need to change your rotation on the fly or interrupt to dodge something.

True of the monk, yes, but not true of the Dragoon. The Dragoon's rotation is linear, and is essentially broken down into three chunks, with movement and dodging doing little more than reducing the viability/need for the final chunk. Everything else is non-GCD and can be weaved when you need it. In the 'A Rotation Reborn' thread, there's a wonderful image that gets across just how inflexible the Dragoon rotation actually is.

I agree, tho. Anyone macro'ing the Monk is doing themselves a disservice.

[Dano]

The Dragoon's rotation is linear,

even with a linear combo, in a real fight you are constantly dodging and doing mechanics, that means dropped combos if you are using set macros the instance you move away from the mob, do you manually input the combo to continue? or just restart the macro again?. Also depending on the fight, you might need to delay an action, disengage, do a quickburst, move out of harms way, click on an object..etc. A fixed combo macro just isn't flexible enough imo to perform up to task. but to each their own though, some people can work with macros and not be confused but i personally manual input all my combos, even on dragoon.