Gap between MNK and DRG dps widening

[Nayto]

How about we all just wait for Ninja to take the cake...

Then both DRG and MNK can be happy, because their both not 1st in the dps race.

[Zephyranthes]

Is the difference in terms of percentage actually bigger now or just the difference in DPS number bigger? Remember that as we get higher ilvls, the DPS gap will be bigger but percentage-wise is still the same.

[ChaozK]

What do you mean by "TP Rape"? I'm assuming it means to become tp starved and if that is the case, monks run out of TP way faster than DRGs.

Single target its actually fairly equal. The thing is the 80 TP of fracture hurt the monk way more than the drg, since the attack speed is higher.
If we are talking AOE however then drg is much more tp consuming. Monk AOE is actually fairly cheap in comparison to other physical classes (which it also should be).

[Dano]

grease lightning up time yo, not all fights are like T8.

[Ryans]

Single target its actually fairly equal. The thing is the 80 TP of fracture hurt the monk way more than the drg, since the attack speed is higher.
If we are talking AOE however then drg is much more tp consuming. Monk AOE is actually fairly cheap in comparison to other physical classes (which it also should be).

Neither monk nor dragoon should be using fracture.

The TP difference on single target is pretty noticeable, but the difference mostly comes down to the fact that dragoon gets 100 more from invigorate, rather than the actual TP being spent. As for AOE, Dragoon is more TP intensive because they do more damage. Given a 30 second window, dragoon will do more damage. Given a 60 second window, the numbers might start to look closer.

[Mortechai]

I take mantra on my DRG. People giving a point to MNK for having that are silly....stop being silly.

[Kiokin]

I take mantra on my DRG. People giving a point to MNK for having that are silly....stop being silly.

DRG Mantra is 5%

MNK Mantra is 20%

I think MNKs win this one.

[Niota]

A Mnk at i107+ is able to deal pass 500dps, while Drg only able to push to 420+ max.

Don't you think this is too unfair to the DRG job?

/10charsthings

[Craiger]

The problem isn't really the fact that MNK are so far ahead of DRG in DPS, it's the fact that DRG is doing the same or lower DPS compared to SMN, and maybe even BLM can come up to that level with the buffs in 2.3....

DRG doesn't have a lot of utility like others have said. The increase to Bard dps is the only thing that is useful, at least which MNK's doesn't have too...

SMN with their crazy easy "rotation", good mobility and instant ress, shouldn't be doing the same DPS as DRG's

IMO, MNK should be on the top of the single target DPS list, but DRG's should be right behind them. SMN and BLM should be below DRG.

In a couple of patches, DRG will have the lowest DPS of all classes in the game, cause SE doesn't seem to know that SMN has the same DPS, and BLM isn't too far behind, while MNK's is a miles ahead...

Is the difference in terms of percentage actually bigger now or just the difference in DPS number bigger? Remember that as we get higher ilvls, the DPS gap will be bigger but percentage-wise is still the same.

I haven't really compared the two myself, but I've heard many people saying that with high level gear MNK's can get past the 500 mark, while DRG still is in the low part of the 400's.... With 500 dps, DRG's would have to do like 460 dps to be somewhere around 8-10% lower than MNK's. 8-10% lower is what I've heard most people saying the difference was earlier, but now I'm constantly hearing those kind of dps figures, which add up to as much as 20% higher dps.... I'm not sure, but either way, MNK have too big of a gap IMO.

And this isn't being "butthurt", cause DRG's are in the middle of the pack in regards to DPS, and you could get more out of other jobs. This will get more evident when BLM dps is buffed, and when BRD's dps is eventually buffed too, while DRG stays the same... Not to even mention Ninja

[Sygmaelle]

http://sim.ffxivguild.net/

Yeah sure insane dps difference. Seriously #learntotakeiteasy