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    balanced123's Avatar
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    Que balance -> Why I might eventually quit FFXIV

    I put down FFXIV for about two months now, only picking it back up to peek at the story/content. Why is this?
    5+ hour long que / instance waits for DPS.
    Verbal abuse as tank / healer.
    In a game flooded with DPS I'm still not sure why SE decided to release a DPS class.
    Why have a game when you cannot even play it?
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Making friends is hard, QQ.
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    Aiden Weaver
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    Because NIN is one of the most wanted classes. It's a business, hype is important, and NIN will hype more than just about any other class they could've released.

    Join a Free Company or some Link Shells if you really hate the people this much. Personally, I don't have too many issues beyond the occasional troll, or new person who refuses to listen to advice.

    I understand your frustrations, but there are ways to combat them.

    On a sidenote, love your name!
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Adding a tank class wouldn't solve it either. Tanks would drift to the new tank class...so would others at first just as something else to hit 50 with...but within a month or so the balance would return as the DPSers return to their DPS mains or healers to healer mains because there's a large volume of people who have at least 1 of every role leveled at this point (myself included) and will always lean towards their favorite role even if there were 50 tank classes. We also don't know if ROG/NIN is the only addition. The only job FF11 ever released solo was SMN and that was only as a teaser in lead up to Rise of the Zilart. SE is taking steps to combat the queues if you take a look at the new CT. The default Duty Finder loadout is 1 tank 3 healers 5 DPS. I'm not sure what you want them to do about the verbal abuse. I personally rarely get dickheads like that in my queues that berate my tanking/healing and I don't sweat the ones I do get because any online community...any online game...is going to have those people.
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    Yeah I'm not sure that the number of classes is really what drives this. Rather simply that more people like to be the one doing the damage!

    The tank is commonly looked to as the leader of the party, and as such the stress level and knowledge required there is often higher. Less people want that. Healers are seen by many as maybe unexciting, for girls maybe, gets blamed often perhaps.

    How is tank vs dps vs healers in PvP? (I havn't tried that yet, but perhaps there's some motivation there to build dps classes?)

    Either way I doubt that adding a new class to any of the category's will change this at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by balanced123 View Post
    I put down FFXIV for about two months now, only picking it back up to peek at the story/content. Why is this?
    5+ hour long que / instance waits for DPS.
    Verbal abuse as tank / healer.
    In a game flooded with DPS I'm still not sure why SE decided to release a DPS class.
    Why have a game when you cannot even play it?
    /stare

    New to MMO?
    I am not sure about your world/data center, but the longest I've ever waited as DPS on Cactuar is around 15 minutes. On peak hours, I can get in less than 10 minutes (Often around 5).
    Obviously tank and healers have it easier.

    My opinion... this might not be the genre for you, if you're only playing for bits of story.
    I'd play an offline RPG or JRPG if I were you, though I get it. It'd be nice not to have a queue at all. It's just not a realistic thought.
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    Player Zaft's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paruza View Post
    Healers are seen by many...for girls
    I'll have you know that playing whack-a-mole health bars in a dress is the manliest thing you can do in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tashigi View Post
    /stare.
    Played WoW 3 years ago and typically only PVP timers were this long.
    Progress in life as in game can be seen as setting a goal. Let's say I don't want ilvl 150, but set my goal on something simple, say beating all content and maybe getting enough money for a house.
    Not sure how your server works, but mine the non-ilevel content is never run, and if it is theres some crazy "perfect" requirement."
    "We will run once, and if we wipe I will disband."

    As as all 50 crafter, I once managed to save 1,000,000 gil. The Master tool patch ruined that, because I did not realize it was a money sink with no real benefit. Needless to say I'm broke and none of my crafted items sell even though they are favorited.
    So much for my house.

    I am a working adult who comes home and has 1-3 hours to play before I pass out.
    I love the art, the story and the feel of this game.
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    Kikyo Cledwin
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    Quote Originally Posted by balanced123 View Post
    5+ hour long que / instance waits for DPS.
    I am going to call bull on this. I think there is actually a time out on the Queues once you hit a certain amount of time in the queue. I think it sits somewhere around 2 hours wait time (possibly 3). But I certainly don't think it is possible to actually spend FIVE HOURS waiting on a queue. For one thing there are too many people playing this game for that to be possible. Maybe you are just on a bad datacenter or something.

    The only reason you could possibly be experiencing this kind of lag on queue times, is if you are only queuing for Labyrinth of the Ancients. That things Queue time for DPS is quite long. But doing ordinary 4 or 8 man dungeons shouldn't take longer than 45 minutes to queue at the absolute longest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashigi View Post
    I'd play an offline RPG or JRPG if I were you, though I get it. It'd be nice not to have a queue at all. It's just not a realistic thought.
    Um dude... not to nitpick here... but Final Fantasy is, and has always been... the Primier J-RPG. J-RPG is simply the initials for the phrase "Japanese Role Playing Game" which is exactly what Final Fantasy is. I suppose you could argue that Final Fantasy XI, and Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn are J-MMORPG's instead, but they are still J-RPG's.
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    Last edited by Tharian; 07-05-2014 at 02:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balanced123 View Post
    I put down FFXIV for about two months now, only picking it back up to peek at the story/content. Why is this?
    5+ hour long que / instance waits for DPS.
    Verbal abuse as tank / healer.
    In a game flooded with DPS I'm still not sure why SE decided to release a DPS class.
    Why have a game when you cannot even play it?
    Two things:

    1) If it is taking 5 hours for you to get a party as a DPS then I guarantee you are doing it wrong.

    2) If you are being verbally bullied as a tank then you should be vote kicking him/her with "Harassment" as the reason.

    Two things to when queuing up for duty as a DPS. Make sure you have unlocked every possible dungeon (Based on your lodestone profile, I assume you already have.) and Second, Always make sure all 4 languages are highlighted in the duty finder so that you cast the widest net possible for parties. Many people don't know about the latter.
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