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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemight View Post
    I am aware of that but do you aware of the following?

    1. PvP experince has been increased more than 300%, (WD 2.2) 60 for winning to (Frontline 2.3) 600 and 20 for lossing to 300.
    1) it still takes an insane amount of time/effort to get to 40 regardless.
    2) it still doesn't change how it's really uncool forcing us into the same GC as our friends when we dislike the respective GC & SE already went on record stating it would have next-to-no bearing which GC we chose to be a part of.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    No they are not the same. You are aligned with the Maelstrom. Your FC is aligned with Twin Adders. Just because you work for your FC, does not mean you are aligned with Twin Adders..
    Read it again, all of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    FC's registration to a GC is an administrative choice, and not a military one.
    Semantics. Administratively aligned or Militaristically, you're still siding with your known enemy... it's still an act of treason.

    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    I do not agree with the ability to queue with whatever GC you or your friends feel like at the time.
    I haven't asked for that.
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    Last edited by Parz3val; 08-29-2014 at 02:49 AM.

  2. #82
    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Errors View Post
    .

    There, lore and player options.
    You would rather the world change for you but you are not willing to make change to adpot to the world isnt it?

    Let me see.....
    Cool down for GC switch has been lower down to 15 days ..........checked
    You get to keep our old GC rank if you switch it back ................checked
    PvP exp has been increased ..................................................checked
    PvP action system has been improved .....................................checked

    Weired, after all that catering carebare, people still not willing to consider change GC to play together as an option.
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  3. #83
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    ^again, it still takes an insane amount of effort/time to get to Rank 40.
    ^^again, SE still went against their word with regards to GC's having no effect on playability
    ^^^again, it's still really uncool we're forced into a GC we dislike just to play with our friends
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  4. #84
    Player Divinemight's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    ^again, it still takes an insane amount of effort/time to get to Rank 40.
    ^^again, SE still went against their word with regards to GC's having no effect on playability
    ^^^again, it's still really uncool we're forced into a GC we dislike just to play with our friends
    Again, you started this thread since July 05, 2014 and now is August 28, 2014. Keep bring back a dead thread instead of putting in effort to play with your FC friends.
    Again, you are warned at 2.0 that Frontline is going to be GC affliartion based PvP.
    Again, if your intention is to play with your FC friends, why would you care about rank 40? If you switched at beginning of August, all your FC are probalby at least rank 35 to Rank 40 by now
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  5. #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    Semantics. Administratively aligned or Militaristically, you're still siding with your known enemy... it's still an act of treason.
    GCs are not enemies.
    They only are on the Frontlines, on Cartenau, which is under a very specific set of rules, and every three GCs had an agreement regarding this particular case.
    Even then, they are not "enemies" per se, they are just competing for a power that would reinforce their military force to deal with the problems of their respective cities.
    They deliberatly choose to fight for Cartenau rather than trying to "discuss" or to "buy" it.

    Anyway, the difference between "administrative registration" and "military affiliation" is a big deal and does not just concerns semantics like you say.

    GCs are sending soldiers from their own forces to fight for Cartenau. They're not sending FCs, because they don't have the power to ask them anything on a military level. That's basically it.
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  6. #86
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    ^you're assuming I haven't put in effort to play with my FC friends... doesn't erase I think this should still change/is poor design.
    ^^no we weren't, it was loosely implied & we did prepare... doesn't erase I think this should still change/is poor design.
    ^^^less about rank, more about principle & being in the GC we enjoy most, unrestricted as promised originally... doesn't erase I think this should still change/is poor design.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    GCs are not enemies.

    They only are on the Frontlines, on Cartenau, which is under a very specific set of rules, and every three GCs had an agreement regarding this particular case.

    GCs are sending soldiers from their own forces to fight for Cartenau. They're not sending FCs, because they don't have the power to ask them anything on a military level. That's basically it.
    So... you're telling me the GC's just decide to slaughter one another's soldiers, turn a blind eye, & don't care in the least fraternizing with one another. Doubtful. No respect for reasonable lore-writing if it's really that simple.

    Talk about shoddy Lore...

    "Hey, you're allied with the group that killed all my siblings in battle, wanna run SV HM with me & my pals?! You're even in my Free Company, we share a roof together, talk about small world!"
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    Last edited by Parz3val; 08-29-2014 at 03:13 AM.

  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz3val View Post
    So... you're telling me the GC's just decide to slaughter one another's soldiers, turn a blind eye, & don't care in the least fraternizing with one another. Doubtful.
    I don't know about you but this is occurring in the real world as we speak.

    Its not unreasonable. Your being unreasonable that such things can't occur. If they can in real life, they definitely can in a game where humans can heal wounds with magic.
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  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    I do not agree with the ability to queue with whatever GC you or your friends feel like at the time.
    you queue under your character's Grand Company or you queue under the Grand Company Allied to your Free Company.

    the entire party queueing whether 2 people or 8 people must be from the same Free Company. your Free Company must have Allied Reputation with the Grand Company.

    Those are the 2 options you have, you can't ever go to the 3rd one unless you change or you change FC's, which is increasingly harder now that you would lose your room and have to buy a new one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    So if you want to see this lift off losing ranks when switching, talk about how to actually implement it properly but at the same time avoiding the same catastrophe we saw in GW2.
    I just want to be able to queue under the FC's GC when I'm partied with FC members.

    I don't want it to be easy to switch. You can also reduce Wolf Marks earned by like 25%/50% if you fight under your FC but against your own GC.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    For example, my company is from Germany but I work for them as an American. Just because I work for them doesn't mean I'm a German.
    Yet the US World Cup team can hire a German and not be disqualified from competition. Some people are just not that patriotic, deal with it.

    I was born Chinese in a British Colony, immigrated to the US became a citizen could potentially marry a Canadian. You're telling me I can only support one country in every international issue?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    FC's registration to a GC is an administrative choice, and not a military one.

    You, on the other hand, have to support and fight for the Grand Company you choose, giving it supplies and equipment while being able to exchange seals for goods provided by said GC.
    Free Company actions are all awarded by the Grand Company to the Free Company. I benefit from that a lot more than I benefit from Company Seals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    The power of GCs on the FCs barely exists, while the bond between you and your GC is much stronger.
    Yet I've changed Grand Companies 4 times since I started playing and I've never changed Free Companies. How can you tell every player where their bond is strongest?
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  9. #89
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    I don't necessarily agree different GC members should be intermingled in the same Frontlines group. However, I think it's absolutely ludicrous that your personal PVP experience/rank if forfeited should you decide to switch Grand Companies. That is honestly about the stupidest thing in this game, IMO.
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  10. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    Yet the US World Cup team can hire a German and not be disqualified from competition. Some people are just not that patriotic, deal with it.
    I said nothing about being patriotic. I stated that My company which is ran from germany hires americans but it doesn't mean I'm a german because I work for them, where OP is stating that technically because he's an american working for a company from germany, hes technically american and german. Which isn't true.

    Quote Originally Posted by SendohJin View Post
    I was born Chinese in a British Colony, immigrated to the US became a citizen could potentially marry a Canadian. You're telling me I can only support one country in every international issue?
    I'm not exactly sure where you are stemming this off from.
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