Tanks keep leaving the dungeon

[Gralna]

Ok, then I'll just troll people until they kick me out if I decide I don't want to stay in a bad group any longer.

Your next move.

Never said anything about same group, said same encounter, you get Stone Vigil from roulette, if you leave, dc, get kicked, etc, you queue for it again, you get SV again untill you complete it or roulettes reset.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Then I hope you're prepared for people to simply unsubscribe from a game that doesn't let people get a choice. The 30 minute penalty for leaving is punishment enough. To force people to be stuck in one duty until it's finished, whether they like it or not, is a great way to drive people away since they don't got a say on how they want to progress.


And getting forced to stay in a specific duty after you get kicked? Really? What makes that a good idea?

[Gralna]

Then I hope you're prepared for people to simply unsubscribe from a game that doesn't let people get a choice. The 30 minute penalty for leaving is punishment enough. To force people to be stuck in one duty until it's finished, whether they like it or not, is a great way to drive people away since they don't got a say on how they want to progress.


And getting forced to stay in a specific duty after you get kicked? Really? What makes that a good idea?

yea, people are going to quit because they can't choose which dungeon they get from a random roulette....

[MilesSaintboroguh]

If people quit over atma, then they will leave over anything. Being forced to do something in a game you don't want to do is disaster waiting to happen.


Forefiting the bonus for leaving is more than enough.

[Dimitrii]

Its so easy now to get myth that you don't necessarily need to rely on roulettes anymore to accumulate them quickly (even though they were never the most efficient way of accumulating them time wise). That's why I don't understand why people queue to the roulette when they know that there is a distinct possibility that one of several dungeons that they arent enamored with may come up. Like why are you wasting your time queuing to something that has stuff you don't wanna run? Are you that desperate for the laughable amount of gil it yields for being the job in need/roulette gil bonus?

[Dimitrii]

If people quit over atma, then they will leave over anything. Being forced to do something in a game you don't want to do is disaster waiting to happen.


Forefiting the bonus for leaving is more than enough.

Except nobody is forcing you to do the roulette anymore than anybody forced you to get an atma weapon. I cant stand doing CM anymore so guess what? I don't queue main scenario roulette anymore. Its also ridiculous to compare the grind that is atma farming to queuing for and running dungeons of which most can be completed in 30-40 min assuming you got a bunch of new ppl with you (in which case SE even rewards you for the longer time spent guiding these new ppl by giving u extra myth), and much faster if you don't. I do agree though that forfeiting the bonus for the day would be enough since it would prevent them from being idiots and queuing again and having the same situation repeat itself. Thus minimizing the amount of people's time that one elitist wannabe can waste.

[Aika_Nakamura]

30 minute penalty is more time than most any dungeon takes to complete, even with new players.

You're crazy. I've spent over an hour on some dungeons with new people, quite frequently.

Anyways, people normally have a reason to drop. If they don't like the dungeon, so be it, because you probably wouldn't want them playing through it anyways.

[LetBloodline]

You're crazy. I've spent over an hour on some dungeons with new people, quite frequently.

Anyways, people normally have a reason to drop. If they don't like the dungeon, so be it, because you probably wouldn't want them playing through it anyways.

I did many dungeons as dps and as tank but never got to 1h since the time of first temple of quarn or the first run at amdapoor keep

If you run now many 1h+ dungeon maybe... it your fault?

Plus i'd rater go on with a tank that play poorly cuz he's annoyed (who cares, a decent healer will keep him up anyways and i shot things down quickly) then have lost the 40+ minutes of queue for copperbell hard for that shitty book WASTED cuz the tank quitted, and if he do it he must be punished equally to the problem he make for the other 3 players

This is multiplayer. You are not alone. You want to whine about your rights of play the way you want? Go single players games. Where other ppl are concerned your freedom end when start other's freedom. Rulette are ment to let ppl get past of annoying dungeons no one queue anymore. They are not there as free daily gift for egoistical players. You help other ppl with those dungeons? You get the bonus. You are liquid s*it that want all gains and no pain? You should get punished enough so you don't do it. And if you are one of those s*it that quit copperbell saing "you better off without me you s*it?" YES, we are better off without tank like that queuing