Echo for EX and Coils, wtf?

[Kaze3434]

I'll be honest, I'm really not sure how all of you feel justified in ascribing all of these selfish motivations to me. I'm saying that I would enjoy a feature like this. Instead of reasoned opinions, there's just poison and personal attacks. Not everyone values the same things, I'm probably not going to level many other classes, or go for a high end relic things I don't personally care about. Should a limited ilvl / echo mode with some associated achievements be put in place, that would interest me and I would persue it. I don't think that somehow automatically makes me an ass or special snowflake, any more than someone getting all 50 or high tier relics would make them one.

people are not agreeing with you because echo is not stoping you from doing content. echo has done nothing to help people dodge things better. it helps them survive longer, and eventually get more practice at content. more practice means they down it eventually. with more practice, they get better at moving, anticipating attacks, and making strats to deal with anything that comes at them. you saying echo is bad and anyone that has used it to beat something is a bad player is a blanket cast on everyone that took a break from the game, leveled up crafters or gatherers, did side quests at their own pace, dont have or want a static, and all new players that join when/after 2.3 hits. taking the achievements away because of any of those reasons is stupid and screams "they didnt do this fight when it was at its hardest, thust deserve nothing". that mindset is wrong, and doesnt help the community come together at all. people are already seperated by gear, why are you so intent on taking away something that will help bridge that gap as new things come out?

TL;DR echo helps more than it hurts and is doing nothing to stop you playing and beating content. please, stop complaining about a non existant problem.