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  1. #51
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    Dels Pyromaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    But according to your own report of what you said, you are wrong, because you can, in fact, turn it off. >_>
    Oh my god...

    Please, go find me a party of 7 other people in the party finder who will agree to turn off echo.

    Then come back and tell me its possible.

    (You'll note that's exactly what I said before he quoted me and just said "Well you're wrong anyway!")
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  2. #52
    Player Yoninxi's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoskai View Post
    No he doesn't, his point wasn't "durr nothing will help if you're bad" it was "hurr bad players will be bad players and will never get better".
    Not gonna lie, I suck at any game the first time I play it, but practice and time help me get better.
    Playing games helps you get better at playing games, what a mindfuck.
    Are we playing the same game? No amount of practice helps some of the special people I run into the Duty Finder, or Party Finder. Run in, die over and over to the same exact mechanic, then whine its too hard.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dels View Post
    Stop trying to deflect. You said "If you don't like echo, you can turn it off." I replied and said "No, that's not possible." And you're just ignoring that and saying "no ur wrong"
    No, it's quite possible actually. You just right click an icon.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    No, it's quite possible actually. You just right click an icon.
    Ok. So join a party finder group and tell them all "Everyone please right click the echo icon" and then come back to me and let me know how it went.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoninxi View Post
    The game is playable as it is. If you're constantly failing content, its not too hard, you just suck. Point, blank, period. I feel echo is nothing but a crutch that too many players fall back on. PT dies over and over and theres always that 1 person thats like "Don't worry guys we got echo, we will win." Bad players keep being bad, and echo reinforces that.
    You're forgetting also that people with disabilities play this game and, for whatever reason, they may not possess the same reaction time "skills" that you do.

    The game also has it's own problems that make things harder for players in certain game mechanics. And it can be frustrating when you're doing everything right, yet the game itself isn't working as intended.

    If you don't want to use Echo then just make a party based on that fact and advertise it properly.
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dels View Post
    Ok. So join a party finder group and tell them all "Everyone please right click the echo icon" and then come back to me and let me know how it went.
    Alternatively; make your own PF and advertise properly that Echo will not be used.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dels View Post
    Ok. So join a party finder group and tell them all "Everyone please right click the echo icon" and then come back to me and let me know how it went.
    Stop deflecting. You know damn well the option is available to turn the echo off. Getting everyone else to agree with you is not what we're talking about.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizzie View Post
    Alternatively; make your own PF and advertise properly that Echo will not be used.
    There is no way that would fill up within a reasonable amount of time, if it ever filled up at all.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoninxi View Post
    i'm full of poop and vinegar
    Please insert token and try again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dels View Post
    There is no way that would fill up within a reasonable amount of time, if it ever filled up at all.
    With the massive amount of people complaining about the same exact thing you are, that sounds like bullshart.
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  10. #60
    Player
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    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    Stop deflecting. You know damn well the option is available to turn the echo off. Getting everyone else to agree with you is not what we're talking about.
    Yes it is. Its exactly what we are talking about. It is simply not possible to do these fights without the echo. You can turn off your own, which would mean 7/8 of the party still have a 20% boost, and it would also probably get you kicked more often than not.

    So, no, its not possible.
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