Echo for EX and Coils, wtf?

[AldoVonAlexandros]

U can click off the echo buff

[Warlyx]

You don't need T5 for coordination, but it's certainly a premilinary fight coordination-wise. If your group cannot do Fireball=Soak Team, Conflag=under Twintania, and Fireball with Conflag=go inside Conflag, there is no way that you will last in SCoB.

this , and titan extreme will teach u to move or die!

[Zumi]

You will never have the same experience as people who beat it when it was current on coil 1 and old EX primal because people now people have ilvl 100+ gear now that didn't exist when the content was top tier. Having 100+ ilvl gear makes the fights much easier as well.

[Yukiko]

I don't understand the people who complain about echo but are unwilling to click it off, you need the game to force you to have that challenge or you won't do it? Excuses and nothing else.

Oftn the same people are doing content not only with refusing to click it off but also overgeared with high allegan...
I remember back in 2.0 when i was winning Titan HM with AF gear (the one you are getting from Quest) and I was last one alive while others were speechless... that kind of challenge may be a bit extreme but you do not need anything to have a challenge if you wish for. The complaining about "too easy" mostly is just an excuse for other reasons! The fun part was when at start awsome gearcheck players with a big mouth die before heart phase...

[Kuwagami]

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what I wanted to say is that knowing T2 in and out won't help you for (as an example) T4. Titan HM to titan Ex is a special case as it's the same fight but harder. Same mechanics, just a few new ones. There are similarities, but nothing in T1-5 prepares you for T6's mechanics

However, you do learn coordination (as I said), and while T5 isn't needed to learn it, it's the direct roadblock for non coordinated groups. Because people who can't coordinate will just get ravaged later.