Echo for EX and Coils, wtf?

[Paruza]

For noob content, I think having the game basically hand you victory's is OK (I still don't like it, but I can tolerate it). However for content that's supposed to be truly endgame and a challenge, I really feel like the echo is pretty horrible.

I haven't gotten through all the end game stuff yet (only started 2 weeks ago). But I remember when I did titan HM, it was a fun fight, I was just with some pugs, we wiped a couple times but were making progress, nobody seemed to be getting annoyed. Then the echo kicked in, and we won easily. Mostly because we got better sure, but I really felt robbed to be honest, It's not as if the fight is even hard, but being able to advance just because the game basically decided after just a few mins to hand you a crutch is annoying.

I would be fine with the Echo if triggering it was optional and would result in no advancement, achievements, or items. It would then have a semi legit use for practice.

Do gamers these days really have no pride?

[Paruza]

How can one feel ok with saying "I beat such and such boss" if the game just hands it to you.

[Velthice]

Get over yourself. It's a video game yo.

[Lyrinn]

There are people who still can't beat T5 or EX primals with echo so ...

[KiriA500]

You can turn it off.

Do gamers these days really have no pride?

Seriously. The fact that gamers will cry over the most asinine crap is embarrassing.

[Alphras]

Go into Turn 5 and see if the game hands the win to you.

Second Coil is were you wanna go btw.

[shanvhere]

It works for WoW and they make $3,600,000,000 a year.

[Rufalus]

Echo is for old content, and it still doesn't win the fight for you. As far as I know, the latest extreme primals and coil raids never have echo, and the amount you get on the older ones is meagre and doesn't help much, you still need to execute everything correctly. Echo exists for a reason, to ease things for people lagging behind. If you want a challenge, do the latest content, try beating Turn 4 of the Second Coil of Bahamut, and soon Ramuh extreme mode.

[Tupsi]

You can turn it off.



Seriously. The fact that gamers will cry over the most asinine crap is embarrassing.

Funnily enough, its usually the ones who want said changes rather than the ones against it.

[Billzey]

I find it odd that levi/mog em are getting echo when ramuh's drops are the exact same ilvl. How the hell does that make any sense whatsoever.