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    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    New names for weapons...

    Any reason pretty much every sword is now called a bastard sword? Seems like a pretty bizarre switch.
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    5 out of 17 (I excluded the GC weapons) really are "pretty much every sword".

    Viking swords all day long!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikorayu View Post
    5 out of 17 (I excluded the GC weapons) really are "pretty much every sword"
    Ok, no need to stress because I didn't sit there counting like you, my point is more about the actual name. Is there some sort of bastard lore in the game, or is it an old term for swords or something? I'm not sure about anywhere else (don't think it is in America) but bastard is considered a swear word here, so seeing the names was just a bit weird to me, the same way others might have frowned if they were to see weapons renamed as the "F*ck Off Grimoire."
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
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    The French épée bâtarde and the English bastard sword originate in the 15th or 16th century, originally in the general sense of "irregular sword, sword of uncertain origin", but by the mid-16th century could refer to exceptionally large swords.[2] The Masters of Defence competition organised by Henry VIII in July 1540 listed two hande sworde and bastard sworde as two separate items.[3] It is uncertain whether the same term could still be used to other types of smaller swords, but antiquarian usage in the 19th century established the use of "bastard sword" as referring unambiguously to these large swords.[4]
    Source- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longsword

    It's been a thing for a while.
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    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyouretsuzan View Post
    The French épée bâtarde and the English bastard sword originate in the 15th or 16th century, originally in the general sense of "irregular sword, sword of uncertain origin", but by the mid-16th century could refer to exceptionally large swords.[2] The Masters of Defence competition organised by Henry VIII in July 1540 listed two hande sworde and bastard sworde as two separate items.[3] It is uncertain whether the same term could still be used to other types of smaller swords, but antiquarian usage in the 19th century established the use of "bastard sword" as referring unambiguously to these large swords.[4]
    Source- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longsword

    It's been a thing for a while.
    Thank you
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    Actually, it's only a small selection of daggers which have been changed to bastard swords, which makes sense since we're getting a dagger class and Gladiator had no real sense having daggers this long anyway.

    Changing the gladius weapons to viking weapons, now that's odd.
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    It seems to be all the daggers that are changing both in name and appearance.



    I'll bet we'll see them again in 2.4 reworked for rogue and ninja, since they'll be using daggers instead of swords.
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    Noctis Umbra
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    Name and appearance changes. Seems they're removing daggers from the GLA arsenal, making them a separate class of weapons from swords.

    Expected, since we'll be getting ROG in 2.4.

    Yep. ROG for Rogue. What I expect at least.
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    Nuts, i liked daggers. Time to get some shortswords then.
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    Man... I almost read carnage sword as carnage scissors.

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