2.3 Changes to CC in PVP

**Tsukichu** · 07-06-2014 04:04 AM

Melee can sprint as easily as any mage... They have three TP regaining cooldowns to blow on such a thing, and maybe a bard.

**GalaxyGirl** · 07-06-2014 04:56 AM

What's CC?

**Nalien** · 07-06-2014 05:30 AM

So... Those resistance materia are even more worthless now?

Originally Posted by Tsukichu

Melee can sprint as easily as any mage... They have three TP regaining cooldowns to blow on such a thing, and maybe a bard.

This, so much... Never understood why melee don't make use of such things, it works very well against mages, who usually don't expect a melee to hit them so fast and hard.

**Ransu** · 07-06-2014 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Yumi_umi

Woot face roll dps in frontlines with the abuse of sprint.
High fives* casters and healers.
Time to bank on melees using mounts to get around, say hello to aero , stone 1 and stuff that will make u get that annoying slow lol.
Us casters will just pop sprint from place to place to avoid that mount slowed thing as the CD on sprint is so fast.
Build a team of 8 whm = GG
Cuz 8 medicas + stone 2 someone to death = win
Tanks will be barely used in FL as they won't be able to keep up and actually tank the masses.
BLMs will triumph as the top dps due to their superior AoEs along with schs ( both can use sprint )
FL gonna be so broken it'll be fun.

When has massive pvp ever been balanced? How do you even balance a game of 72 people? Its impossible. With that said, melee have ALWAYS been at a disadvantage on large scale pvp in every mmo, thats just how it is. Melee destroy in small scale fights, range destroy in large scale fights as its always an aoe zerg fest.

Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl

What's CC?

Crowd control. Stuns/roots/slows etc...

**Sapphic** · 07-06-2014 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Ransu

When has massive pvp ever been balanced? How do you even balance a game of 72 people? Its impossible. With that said, melee have ALWAYS been at a disadvantage on large scale pvp in every mmo, thats just how it is. Melee destroy in small scale fights, range destroy in large scale fights as its always an aoe zerg fest.

Melee will be useful on capture points as you have to stay within the zone of influence (or whatever name they will call it

) To try and push them out. But generally in wode open areas Ranged dominate. Melee just stand back with their thumb somewhere until a suicidal melee from the opposing side decides to charge in and get roflstomped by melee standing around. Albeit a coordinated melee charge can break a ranged stalemate.

**AbstractLemons** · 07-06-2014 04:35 PM

I may actually try healing the wolves den after I rack up marks of course and increase my rank. I can see whm's being better at that since they have insta cast regens, out of 7-10 matches of trying to get into it I got the impression healers were essentially dead weight as for them its a game of tag and cant contribute too much to the party as its basically a game of whoever kills the healer first wins. In Frontlines...dare I say it? Actual healing will take place...for scholars anyway who cant insta cast regen. So maybe frontlines will be more fun to heal since I can actually participate and do more in the fight.

As for wolves den, (of course this wont happen) just remove healers from the required party setup and let 3 dps que at least the fights would be more dynamic to a degree and everyone would actually be able to participate more in the battle. Which is why I currently detest healing the wolves den as the strategy is to actually deny the healer's participation which defeats the point of having them there to begin with. I understand the need for cc's to counter the healer but other classes have skills beside interrupt that make it very easy to chase down healers. Bind, on top of ranged dps and melee have gap closers. Cant run, cant heal, cant stand still so no point in being there. So it's to be expected they have to give healers some breathing room.

I doubt this system will ever be balanced to where its fair for all classes but hey more healer friendly now so that's something. :P

**tehomegaking** · 07-06-2014 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Tsukichu

Melee can sprint as easily as any mage... They have three TP regaining cooldowns to blow on such a thing, and maybe a bard.

No. Unlike a mage, melee TP is constantly being drained throughout the fight. No matter how much TP regeneration skills/items you use, there is always a lack of TP. As such, you're sprint is much shorter... but mages always have full TP when they sprint so they enjoy the full 20 seconds everytime.

**Yumi_umi** · 07-07-2014 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by tehomegaking

No. Unlike a mage, melee TP is constantly being drained throughout the fight. No matter how much TP regeneration skills/items you use, there is always a lack of TP. As such, you're sprint is much shorter... but mages always have full TP when they sprint so they enjoy the full 20 seconds everytime.

This this this.
Once again bard's songs won't do much unless you tether urself to them lol, unless they buff the range of their songs. And of imo anyone will get
Roflstomped if they charge in if more than 5+ ppl mash the kill button lol

**Logo** · 07-07-2014 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by Tsukichu

Melee can sprint as easily as any mage... They have three TP regaining cooldowns to blow on such a thing, and maybe a bard.

This is foolish.
Imagine Sprint worked off MP and then think if you would be for or against it.
Thought so.

**Illya** · 07-08-2014 02:20 AM

Frontline is going to be so broken at the start tomorrow.

I hope everyone is excited about 8x WHM Holy spam or 8x BLM Flares!

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