So does this only count for premade party roulette, or ANYthing that is joined as premade?

I remember a run of Coil 4 where mistaking 3 tanks where in. With this new thing also applied on this "Ok lets either wait 10 minutes, or try to get it down" Before you say "t4 is teh isee" remember there still are some that need to clear t4 or farm it because they dislike the mytho gear.

Silly mistakes happen when you make a group, now to suffer from a silly mistake with penalties is meh.

Some of those "clear first room" groups probably will to be not so amused, because a good group can do this in less than 10 minutes =.=

*flips table*
you know what full formed party means? they go as 4 people in, there are no unsuspecting PuGs there are 4 peopel that exactly know what they want. Join as 4 people, kill as many bosses as they want, exit rinse repeat. No other people are bothered with that