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  1. #121
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    Imoen Orunitia
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altimis View Post
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    I pretty sastisfied with Bio II MP reduce as Bio II is main power spell (though I want to know why they reduce it and how much they reduce, I hope they reduce it to 133 MP cost)

    For Miasma 2, if you want my opinion, I never use it in my opinion if the fight not involved with 3 targets plus, even 2 target, its still not worth using because too high MP

    I agreed with you about Miasma 2 MP reduce but I not agree with "instead", if choose Miasma 2 or Bio II, I choose Bio II
    My point is, if i'm just using standard 3 dots I rarely have MP issues, when im using Miasma 2 , shadow flare and ruin 2 a ton, I do.

    I don't feel like bio 2 really eats into mp much because I only cast it once and then let it run its duration add contagion on top of that, and ya... I mean unless I'm running a lowbie dungeon where I don't have bane, its never an issue. I guess it will be helpfull in moogle EX fight though.

    Anyway that is just my opinion, i don't really feel bio 2 was ever an issue to have it get a change. I have never stopped and said "damn that bio 2 is really messing up my mp"
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    Last edited by Imoen; 07-06-2014 at 05:18 AM.

  2. #122
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    Firelord Azula
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I have a lot that I could say as far as this whole back and forth of these upcoming buffs are. But I will skip that for now and just simply add that I think it's a little early to be freaking out over "Preliminary" patch notes. We have no idea if that is the only change they made or not. Let's wait until the official patch notes come out to really form our opinions on the matter. Then after that we can actually test it, play with it and decide what we think then.
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    Last edited by Clarkamite; 07-06-2014 at 05:48 AM.

  3. #123
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    Philia Felice
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Imoen View Post
    My point is, if i'm just using standard 3 dots I rarely have MP issues, when im using Miasma 2 , shadow flare and ruin 2 a ton, I do.

    I don't feel like bio 2 really eats into mp much because I only cast it once and then let it run its duration add contagion on top of that, and ya... I mean unless I'm running a lowbie dungeon where I don't have bane, its never an issue. I guess it will be helpfull in moogle EX fight though.

    Anyway that is just my opinion, i don't really feel bio 2 was ever an issue to have it get a change. I have never stopped and said "damn that bio 2 is really messing up my mp"
    Yeah but Bio II is going to get cast by everyone, M2 user or not, and even M2 users are going to cast Bio II 2X or so as often as M2. If M2 were buffed, it'd just be an attempt to coerce people to use it more, and even if it worked, it will still see 2X less use which is 2X whatever they reduce the MP cost by instead of 1X whatever they reduce M2 by.
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  4. #124
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    Aldo Von'alexandros
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    Blm are fine, even more, smn is what im worried about, maybe in a future new egis will compensate
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  5. #125
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros View Post
    Blm are fine, even more, smn is what im worried about, maybe in a future new egis will compensate
    How do summoners have you worried ?
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  6. #126
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    Jay'nes Alexander
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    Keep in mind these are preliminary notes and some of these things can be smaller parts to a much larger change.
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  7. #127
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    Altimis Farron
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    Aegis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamez82 View Post
    Keep in mind these are preliminary notes and some of these things can be smaller parts to a much larger change.
    Tomorrow they gonna update, I doubt things will change now
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  8. #128
    Player Dwill's Avatar
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    Elenath Lanthir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamez82 View Post
    Keep in mind these are preliminary notes and some of these things can be smaller parts to a much larger change.
    Preliminary notes usually means that they reserve the rights to do last minute changes and that everything major is already in them. Don't expect anything new or anything big to change.
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  9. #129
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    Jay'nes Alexander
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    Yeah well maybe I'm giving SE more credit than they deserve. The changes to SMN right now make no sense whatsoever. They might as well not do a damn thing if this is all they are going to do.

    They preached about making the other pets more useful and if this is their answer to that then theres no hope for that class as a pet class. Just take the pets away and give the smn contagion... change the job name to Warlock.
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  10. #130
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    Tiffany Thorn
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    Leviathan
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Uninstall View Post
    Why would I want that? That would mean be less than 10% dps increase for us and I have no idea why you'd want a lesser buff than what will be given to us.
    Go back and read my posts. I've already answered that question several times in this thread alone.
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