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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoebus View Post
    You are all wrong.





    The fan festivel is in Las Vegas not LA...
    Don't point that out. It makes the whining even more comical when the people doing it clearly starting ranting without even reading the press release.
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by cryptic_angel View Post

    Everyone has access to fan fest, the price tag may vary though.
    No, just stop. I saw your long post and you're from US I assume? Even the example you brought is the expense from the furthest US city to LA. In your mind other parts of the world do not exist. Everyone can come to the fanfest apparently and the biggest sum one may pay is $250. Never mind that in most parts of the world you have to go to hell and back to even get a visa for US.

    Oh the real life equal opportunities, gotta love them.

    Even if we lived in the perfect world, wth does a fanfest has to do with the freaking game itself. How do people compare the challenge of going to a fanfest with the challenge of a dungeon in game? Shouldn't the price for going to the fanfest be the fanfest itself?
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    No, just stop. I saw your long post and you're from US I assume? Even the example you brought is the expense from the furthest US city to LA. In your mind other parts of the world do not exist. Everyone can come to the fanfest apparently and the biggest sum one may pay is $250. Never mind that in most parts of the world you have to go to hell and back to even get a visa for US.

    Oh the real life equal opportunities, gotta love them.
    Hahaha, how about you guys stop. You are all whining over pixels while people suffer world wide from abuse, starvation, disease, and unfathomable loss. YOU are bitching about something that is so trivial and insignificant to your life. How about you pour some of this effort into an actual worth while cause.

    Life is unfair! IRL bleeds into every MMORPG. In can be expected that some of the real life unfairness will bleed into MMOs. Can't afford fifty bucks? Too bad! No dalamund minion for you! Can't afford $700.00? Too bad! No moogle earrings for you! Can't afford international travel from Australia to Japan (just some random extreme example of travel disparity)? Too bad, you don't get to go to fan fest!!!

    Ten years from now you are most likely to forget this thread, what ever in-game item they gave out at fan fest, and this game. This item you are debating about is soooooooooooo meaningless to everything that will every happen on this tiny blue marble and yet you care so much about it.

    Oh, the First world problems, gotta love them.
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    Last edited by cryptic_angel; 07-08-2014 at 03:45 AM.

  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    I am not super rich and can't afford $120 for fanfest ticket + plane ticket + hotel cost.

    I would suggest that you do what Blizzard does for their Blizzcons. People who can't go to Blizzcon can still buy the in game items digitally for about $20-30 for a limited time, usually a pet, mount something similar.

    I like collecting pets and mounts but there is no way I can afford the cost of going to fanfest but I could afford $20-30 if they are sold on the mogstation.
    I'm 100% for this Fanfest is nice but lots of us fans can't go and it's not fair that we miss out on stuff
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  5. #175
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    For all these people who want the Fanfest items available on the Mogstation because they can't attend I have to ask this, "How do you expect to afford these items?" Square has offered limited items with in-game items attached before, the recent soundtracks being the most obvious. People complained about the prices then, comparing the price against the in-game item. Heaven forbid that it came with a bluray disk chock full of songs. This is THE SAME THING. You aren't paying for the in-game item that comes with attendance to Fanfest, you are paying for a Fanfest ticket. The items, in-game and real, are a PERK of attending. You don't want to attend, you don't get the items (unless someone who did attend decides to put them up on Ebay).

    If they were to be sold on Mogstation (as if), they won't be cheap. Further, Square would likely not even sell them on the Mogstation given Square doesn't put the same value on virtual goods as some people. It'd likely be sold as part of a set with a real item on the Square commerce site like everything else they've sold, like XI's Tidal Talisman. $43 of silver plated pewter on a pleather strap, and has a code for a body piece with the ability to teleport, one-way, from the cities to Jueno to Whitegate. So useful... tangent aside it's $43. Would you pay around that for a Fanfest item? I wouldn't.
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    Last edited by Gilraen; 07-08-2014 at 03:51 AM.

  6. #176
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    lol >_> I just have money for the ticket what I did was I talked to my gambling loving grandma into going and shes covering the hotel cost ;o a lot of my guildies are doing cool stuff like driving together and picking up others on the way and pooling for rooms and shit hell I'm taking someone in my guild from the same county with us to vegas ;x
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  7. #177
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    Quote Originally Posted by cryptic_angel View Post
    You are all whining over pixels while people suffer world wide from abuse, starvation, disease, and unfathomable loss.
    A strange thing to say from someone that just a few min ago was preaching about equal opportunities and how every one can come in LA.

    You're right it is trivial. I don't even know what this item they're giving is. I bet is some stupid fluffy minion. I got dragged on this topic because of some really strange comments like "everyone can come" and "the challenge of going to fanfest is the same as the challenge of beating t5". The second is a bit more true but still, what does one have to do with the other?

    I couldn't help but replying. Don't worry though, I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
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  8. #178
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    It's a bonus for attending. No, it won't be added. Yes, it's supposed to be insanely exclusive. Find a way to deal with it.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mogi View Post
    I'm 100% for this Fanfest is nice but lots of us fans can't go and it's not fair that we miss out on stuff
    While I support the streaming option 100%, I think it might not be feasible at this point. Unless SE already intended to sell access to streaming, it is unlikely the ground work for making such a stream possible could be done within three months.

    It takes a lot of planing, partnerships, and expenses to stream at that capacity (such as blizzcon), SE probably wants to see how successful the first ff14 fan fest will be before putting themselves on the hook for live stream expenditures.


    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    A strange thing to say from someone that just a few min ago was preaching about equal opportunities and how every one can come in LA.

    You're right it is trivial. I don't even know what this item they're giving is. I bet is some stupid fluffy minion. I got dragged on this topic because of some really strange comments like "everyone can come" and "the challenge of going to fanfest is the same as the challenge of beating t5". The second is a bit more true but still, what does one have to do with the other?

    I couldn't help but replying. Don't worry though, I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
    The only reason I think everyone can go is because I am going on a far more expensive vacation next month, at least six times more expensive. I am not a rich man, I don't think I even qualify as middle class yet.... However, I am an excellent saver of money and I love to travel. Every year I make it a point to travel internationally to see the world. I am able to do such things by setting my mind to it and saving. If I can save money to travel to Puerto Rico, Edinburgh or Sydney, people can save money to travel to fan fest. Anyone who can afford a game subscription is capable of the same acts. Will there be some strange outlying statistic in the percent of people who can go vs who absolutely can't go? Sure, there will always be 10%, 5%, or 1% who cannot go due to extreme circumstances.

    However, everyone (used in a general sense consisting of at least 90% of the player base) has the same opportunities that I have as a poor working grad student.
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    Last edited by cryptic_angel; 07-08-2014 at 03:59 AM.

  10. #180
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinworms View Post
    Showing the convention digitally is an option, but again it goes back to $120 bucks being pretty dang steep in price.
    $120 isn't too out of whack for things like this.
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    $199 for Blizzcon 2014
    $105 for Pax Prime (Three Days)
    ---- $110 for Pax Prime (Four Days)
    $150 for FantasyCon
    $115 for Dragon Con
    $795 (or $995) for E3 2014
    $169 for SOE Live
    -----------------------------------
    See where I'm getting with this?


    However, $10-15 for an in game item to commemorate the convention that we can buy off the mog station would be reasonable, esp for the people that can't just drop $120-$1000 + on the whim, but want to celebrate or show support to the convention.
    It isn't supposed to be "on a whim", this is why people are buying tickets and booking rooms three to four months in advance.

    7 Hells just donate the proceeds to breast cancer SE if you don't want mog station money from us. A lot of people would buy lots of things if they knew the funds went into research or helping others.
    That defeats the purpose of limiting what is available for in-game purchase as it is.
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