Any chance that the fanfest ingame items will be sold on mogstation?

[Tyrial]

We all pay the same monthly fee for this game and we want equal opportunity for these in game items.

If that's the case, then how about SE just sends all these players who are STILL gated behind Turn 5 even after getting 15% echo (and will mostly likely still fail at 20%) all the items that they have no access to because they're so horribly skilled that they can't manage simple mechanics. They're paying the same subscription fee as everyone else, after all. It's not fair to them that SE made some content way more difficult than they can handle.

[Nikita]

If that's the case, then how about SE just sends all these players who are STILL gated behind Turn 5 even after getting 15% echo (and will mostly likely still fail at 20%) all the items that they have no access to because they're so horribly skilled that they can't manage simple mechanics. They're paying the same subscription fee as everyone else, after all. It's not fair to them that SE made some content way more difficult than they can handle.

They don't need to. As new content comes out, better gear comes out, level caps raise, all items will be obtainable eventually. That's not the same with real-life event exclusive items though.

But nice try making an argument I already squashed literally 10 minutes ago. At least you have a few derps that will like your posts no matter how poorly thought out they are.

[cryptic_angel]

FFXI was restrictive, WoW is inclusive. Is there something wrong with wanting equal opportunity for everyone?

And lol @ "I'm going crazy trying not to snap and attack you" when just a few posts ago you were accusing us of crying and getting all emotional.

How about this!

If you're going to the event and you don't care about the item, don't voice concern against our request. If you're not going to the event, don't voice concern against our request. I would like to hear from someone who is actually going to this event as to why they feel this item should be exclusive.

Everyone has equal opportunity to go to fan fest. Everyone playing this game right now has the opportunity to purchase a ticket tomorrow. Not everyone can take advantage of the opportunity though. Just the same way every player has the opportunity to do raids (such as BCoB or SCoB). Yet, some players are unable to take advantage of the raids do to time and/or skill.

I am attending fan fest for all the awesome ff swag and a chance to meet up with some of my FC mates in real life. Yes, I would like the event in-game item to be tied to the event and nothing else.

It is human nature to want things to be rare. That's why limited editions, collectors editions, first editions, exclusive swag and other limited items sell for inflated prices after being discontinued. The same is true in MMOs. People enjoy seeing and obtaining exclusive items. I enjoy seeing people with stuff I will never get and I enjoy having stuff that might make me stand out. It motivates and inspires.

[Edli]

If that's the case, then how about SE just sends all these players who are STILL gated behind Turn 5 even after getting 15% echo all the items that they have no access to because they're so horribly skilled that they can't manage simple mechanics.

C'mon now. That's not the same thing at all. These players are facing the same challenge the others did before. If you get better at the game you will go where others went. No outside force is preventing you to do so.

With exclusive items it doesn't matter how good at the game you are or how much time you devote to it. That's content forever locked to you.

I remember when I first saw fat chocobos around. I wanted one cus they look funny. Went on the web to see which quest or where does it drop. Then I read how this crap had nothing to do with the game world itself. Luckily I don't care all that much for fluff to the point of unsubscribing but it did leave a bad taste in my mouth.

[Nikita]

Everyone has equal opportunity to go to fan fest.

op·por·tu·ni·ty

/ˌäpərˈt(y)o͞onitē/

noun

a set of circumstances that makes it possible to do something.


Equal opportunity? No. When there are some people that live in LA that only have to pay for the ticket and some people that live all the way across the country that have to pay travel and lodging fees on top of the ticket fee, that opportunity is not equal. I feel so sorry for the people living in countries where the event is not hosted, or countries where they make so little money compared to us that a trip to LA for the Fanfest is not even worth considering.

No, I have said it once and I will say it again and again and again and again until my post count runs out for the day. Not everyone has an equal opportunity to attend this event and not everyone has an equal opportunity to receive these items which should have been open to everyone.

[Etone]

Everyone has equal opportunity to go to fan fest. Everyone playing this game right now has the opportunity to purchase a ticket tomorrow. (snip)

There is a huge difference between a few grand total for some and having skill.
So, NO, this is not an equal opportunity situation. Skill can be taught, not everyone has that much money to burn.
Airfare, hotel, ticket, food, PASSPORT, it all adds up. Where as a simple digital ticket lets all those who WANT to go, but can't due to whatever, attend in spirit.

[Tyrial]

C'mon now. That's not the same thing at all. These players are facing the same challenge the others did before. If you get better at the game you will go where others went. No outside force is preventing you to do so.

With exclusive items it doesn't matter how good at the game you are or how much time you devote to it. That's content forever locked to you.

I remember when I first saw fat chocobos around. I wanted one cus they look funny. Went on the web to see which quest or where does it drop. Then I read how this crap had nothing to do with the game world itself. Luckily I don't care all that much for fluff to the point of unsubscribing but it did leave a bad taste in my mouth.

How is it not the same thing? Nikita is saying that everyone should have the same access to everything IN GAME because we all pay the same monthly sub. Somebody lacking the skill to beat Turn 5 and subsequently all turns of SCoB are not being afforded the same opportunity as everyone else because they find the content too difficult. Just like most of the complainers in this thread find the cost of a ticket and paying for flight and hotel accommodations too difficult.

I'm not going and still feel that the item should remain exclusive. I can't justify (or afford) spending over a grand to fly from the east coast to Las Vegas and take 4 days off of work. I live in the real world and have bills to pay and far better things to spend my money on than going to a convention.

They don't need to. As new content comes out, better gear comes out, level caps raise, all items will be obtainable eventually. That's not the same with real-life event exclusive items though.

But nice try making an argument I already squashed literally 10 minutes ago. At least you have a few derps that will like your posts no matter how poorly thought out they are.

And there will STILL be people who can't clear the content. Excuse me for having a job and responding to the post when I saw it after taking care of my real life responsibilities instead of reading through the whole thread first.

Equal opportunity? No. When there are some people that live in LA that only have to pay for the ticket and some people that live all the way across the country that have to pay travel and lodging fees on top of the ticket fee, that opportunity is not equal. I feel so sorry for the people living in countries where the event is not hosted, or countries where they make so little money compared to us that a trip to LA for the Fanfest is not even worth considering.

What is it with you and LA? You have the nerve to attack and belittle others for their apparent (according to you at least) lack of reasoning skills, yet you have failed to even grasp the actual location of the event you're so vehemently against. So who's the derp here, eh?

[Edli]

How is it not the same thing? Nikita is saying that everyone should have the same access to everything IN GAME

And in your example everyone has access to it. You want to go to t6? Beat t5 and you're there. The others before you did the same. They didn't pay on mog station. You are given the same opportunities as everyone else.

Somebody lacking the skill to beat Turn 5 and subsequently all turns of SCoB are not being afforded the same opportunity as everyone else because they find the content too difficult. Just like most of the complainers in this thread find the cost of a ticket and paying for flight and hotel accommodations too difficult.

Do you seriously not see the fault in your logic? This is a game. Beating t5 is the challenge the game gives you. Going to some fanfest has nothing to do with the game. It is completely out of gameplay rules and mechanisms.

[cryptic_angel]

op·por·tu·ni·ty

/ˌäpərˈt(y)o͞onitē/

noun

a set of circumstances that makes it possible to do something.

Equal opportunity? No. When there are some people that live in LA that only have to pay for the ticket and some people that live all the way across the country that have to pay travel and lodging fees on top of the ticket fee, that opportunity is not equal. I feel so sorry for the people living in countries where the event is not hosted, or countries where they make so little money compared to us that a trip to LA for the Fanfest is not even worth considering.

No, I have said it once and I will say it again and again and again and again until my post count runs out for the day. Not everyone has an equal opportunity to attend this event and not everyone has an equal opportunity to receive these items which should have been open to everyone.

Yes, everyone can buy a ticket. Yes, anyone can save money for vacations. People in LA still have to pay for a hotel. The only difference is travel expense which has always been a factor in every "Con" ever put on by any organization.

The opportunity is the same, the cost of travel is what is different. It's akin to a player raiding who happens to also be unemployed Vs. a player who works 60 hours a week and has trouble raiding. Both players have the same opportunity, yet one player is going to be able to raid more.

The price difference between LA (an example you seem very fond of using) and NY is $247.00. That figure is assumed from flying out of LAX to LAS and Flying out of JFK to LAS (go check any travel site if you wish to confirm, I used priceline). Both travelers would need hotel lodging and both travelers would pay the price for a ticket to attend the Con.

If you are really spending this much energy over $250.00 bucks, then you need to take a step away from this game. That amount of money is significant to many people who are struggling financially, but I am going to guess people who cannot afford to spend an extra 250 bucks are also not heavily interested in the exclusive in-game item given out at fan fest.

You are on the losing side of this argument. Many Conventions offer exclusive swag and you just need to get over your self. If people can afford smart phones and a five dollar cup of coffee from star bucks, I am sure they could also scrape together an extra $250.00 by October. If a person cannot afford it, then they probably have bigger concerns than a pet or mount in a virtual world.

There is a huge difference between a few grand total for some and having skill.
So, NO, this is not an equal opportunity situation. Skill can be taught, not everyone has that much money to burn.
Airfare, hotel, ticket, food, PASSPORT, it all adds up. Where as a simple digital ticket lets all those who WANT to go, but can't due to whatever, attend in spirit.

Everyone outside of Las Vegas, NV has a high chance of flying there, I know I am and I only live five hours away. So, flight cost is shared by everyone and the price difference is going to be marginal. See my point above about flying out of JFL vs LAX. Otherwise, most all people attending (unless you live in Vegas or very close to it) share almost all the expense you listed. Again, there are things in the game you can't have at all unless you were there or bought something very expensive like the legacy chocobo or the moogle earrings. Exclusive and retired items happen in an MMO and people should just get over it.

And in your example everyone has access to it. You want to go to t6? Beat t5 and you're there. The others before you did the same. They didn't pay on mog station. You are given the same opportunities as everyone else.

Everyone has access to purchase a fan fest ticket and everyone has the opportunity to attend fan fest, the price tag may vary though.

[Phoebus]

You are all wrong.





The fan festivel is in Las Vegas not LA...