say your right about DD having to be more self sufficient... it still doesnt nagate the fact that it would be more efficient if they werent there to get hit in the first place.. hence archers and mages... im pretty sure i made this clear

when it come down to it, if SE are going to give mobs AOE attacks and want people to bring mrds and lnc then they have to allow for the party dynamic to work - ONE WAY OR ANOTHER

i think they have gone in the right direction they just seem to have gone from one extreme to another.