Possible to enjoy the game without RNG

[Nuinn]

Well, you could that the endgame revolves around RNG and a lot of table flipping.... (Coil 1 & 2, Primals, Dungeon Drops, Zodiac Weapons... ) but there's also an alternative to gear in form of Myth and Sol pieces. If your friend cares about getting the "best of the best" in this game just warn him that he could be in for a world of frustration :x

[kidvideo]

Hi guys,

My friend is thinking of playing FFXIV but he hates anything that is random. Just want to hear everyone's opinion whether you think FFXIV can still be enjoyed without engaging in anything with RNG?

Your friend should give up on life or learn to accept it. EVERYTHING is random & will always be random. Even things that involve some skill have an underlying randomness in the calculations; chance to hit, critical hit, damage, etc. RNG is the fundamental core of an MMO, which has evolved from tabletop RPG/D&D/diceroll. The only thing that is certain is uncertainty itself.

[Ghastly]

I disagree, token system is better than rng. With tokens you are recognized.

[SendohJin]

Your friend should give up on life or learn to accept it. EVERYTHING is random & will always be random. Even things that involve some skill have an underlying randomness in the calculations; chance to hit, critical hit, damage, etc. RNG is the fundamental core of an MMO, which has evolved from tabletop RPG/D&D/diceroll. The only thing that is certain is uncertainty itself.

lots of things are but not everything is.

Chance to hit is not random, once you're over the Accuracy cap, you can't miss.

EX Primal Weapons have no RNG at all, win all 3 fights, pick your weapon. Neither is any Soldiery or Myth gear.

worry about whether or not a hit Crits or an ability Procs is not worrying about RNG, that's extreme OCD and whoever has that problem should seek professional help asap.

[axemtitanium]

I think they have pills now for rngaphobia.

Honestly tell him to ignore every rpg ever made, He won't like it

More like all video games. Tetris? RNG. Pac-man? RNG. Super Mario Bros? RNG.

[kidvideo]

lots of things are but not everything is.

Incorrect, especially this statement "Chance to hit is not random". Everything has a basis in randomness. Soldiery or Myth might not be random at the present but getting them involved RNG. RNG is the fabric of the universe, therefore, everything is random. From life, to stars, to how well your party performs on your primal ex battles.

[kidvideo]

More like all video games. Tetris? RNG. Pac-man? RNG. Super Mario Bros? RNG.

Actually pacman & supermario have patterns, but the RNG factor there is the player & the enviroment.

[axemtitanium]

I am aware that the ghosts in Pacman have rudimentary AI but there are still random elements to the game, just as with Super Mario Bros.

[SendohJin]

Incorrect, especially this statement "Chance to hit is not random". Everything has a basis in randomness. Soldiery or Myth might not be random at the present but getting them involved RNG. RNG is the fabric of the universe, therefore, everything is random. From life, to stars, to how well your party performs on your primal ex battles.

100% is not random.

45 soldiery is 45 soldiery there's no RNG.

How your party performs is not random, you are free to choose who you party with and when. Don't play with people who are drinking.

stop trying to redefine a word to fit your ridiculous argument.

[kidvideo]

You're right

There is simple AI. I was only thinking of the cause & effect behavior.

God how boring would everything be without RNG? I can't imagine how a game without RNG would be any fun.