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    Preypacer's Avatar
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    Perrina Avolara
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    Archer Lv 21
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigtyr View Post
    I honestly hope they do something about this soon, because I'm not putting up with the shit I put up with in FFXI for not playing the "right" classes.
    Gotta agree with this. I got sick and tired of hearing that, too. Though, I heard it about everything (xp parties, BCNMs, etc). It was always "You're not the right job", "You don't have the right sub", etc. etc. It gets old. Meanwhile, I'd get into a group and stand toe-to-toe with anyone else. Didn't matter, though, because people were too caught up with me "not having the right subjob according to the wiki guides".

    Although.. I will say - not necessarily for this situation with XIV, but in general - sometimes it really does come back to being players simply not being willing to try something different, formulate a different strategy based on the jobs they have available, and instead only want to go in with whatever the latest and greatest online strat guide says how "you're supposed to do it".

    Friend of mine completed all of CoP with a group setup that everyone... and I mean everyone... told him "it will never work" with. He was told he would fail, hard. They would wipe. It wouldn't work, etc. etc. Every single time.

    He did this before any of the nerfs, mind you.

    He finished the storyline with his "fail setup" and what did people's arguments change to? "Well you could have done it more efficiently with the right setup. So, it's still fail". Some people have their heads shoved so far up their own ass and are so unwilling to accept anything other than what their precious strat guides say, that they can't see they're wrong, even when it's proven to them.

    I wonder how much longer it would have taken him to complete it if he'd waited to get exactly "the right setup" according to what everyone else told him? Instead of waiting, he said "okay, what jobs do we have avail..." and formulated the strategies based around that. And it worked.

    So... while it could well be true that SE needs to address this particular fight in XIV (not saying it's not so)... I really hope it doesn't become the situation in XIV where people just assume that whatever the strat guides say is "The One And Only Way You Can Defeat That Encounter" and refuse to try anything different.. because *that* leads to a lot of unwarranted exclusion of classes/jobs from groups as well.

    At some point, strat guides cease to be mere strategies, and become a crutch instead.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 07-25-2011 at 10:17 AM.