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  1. #161
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    TaiyoShikasu's Avatar
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    Taiyo Shikasu
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 80
    Most SAM tend to be garbage.

    Inb4 "I'm a SAM main and I'm not garbage," as if I have any reason to believe that and even if it were true, being an exception rather than the rule isn't something to be proud of. And because I'm not from the midwest, I don't award mediocrity.
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  2. #162
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    XenoSamurai's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Alice Liddell
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Most SAM tend to be garbage.

    Inb4 "I'm a SAM main and I'm not garbage," as if I have any reason to believe that and even if it were true, being an exception rather than the rule isn't something to be proud of. And because I'm not from the midwest, I don't award mediocrity.
    And why should I not be proud of my SAM? I don't care how other SAM's preform, I care about how I preform and I try my best.
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  3. #163
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    Driskus's Avatar
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    Driskus Blackstone
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    I'll usually give it to whoever I felt pulled their weight the best and wasn't being a jerk or troll, though my list is more of a "ways to lose that comm" list. If everybody meets too many criteria on this list I likely won't even give it to anyone:

    All:
    - Being so undergeared that you're basically dead weight even if you're playing your job correctly.
    - Being a jerk/troll/etc.
    - Not understanding at least the basics of your job in higher level dungeons (i tend to ignore this one in lower level dungeons, as long as they're trying to figure it out there its ok)
    - Complaining about me successfully pulling you out of a death trap with Rescue. (yes this happens, a lot)
    - Running away like a headless chicken with a stack marker.
    - Pulling ahead of the tank when they've said not to do it. (except Swallow's Compass. I go 110% ham in that place if a not-new tank is pulling slow, because I know said pile of trash mobs will die long before I do)

    Special ones for certain fights:
    - Not being able to find the Duty Action button after instructions on where it is and what to push on a PS4 to use it, especially if said action is Vril.
    - Tanks who don't do orbs in Susano after being instructed on how to do them. I shouldn't have to blow every single "oh crap" heal on myself to save the party from a wipefest.

    Tanks:
    - Constantly forgetting or refusing to use stances, CDs, etc.
    - Not using Flash/Unleash/Overpower as appropriate.
    - Giving the "well i had no trouble the last time" excuse for pulling way, way too much with no warning and expecting to survive. Not every dungeon is like Brayflox Hard back in the day. (bonus negative points if its Dzemael Darkhold. You won't get the comm because I'll have already taken the 30m penalty. That dungeon has its own special place in the seven hells for the "i'm invincible" tanks)
    - Going into a 70 dungeon in 390/400 gear and pulling super small and slow despite the whole party asking for bigger pulls. If I'm spending 97% of my time spamming DPS spells its probably OK to pull more. Don't mind if its their first time, though I try to let them know when they can just go nuts without worrying about dying.
    - Constant stop/go tanking. Guaranteed comm loss if they waste Cleric Stance + PoM + Thin Air Holy spam by doing it.

    Healers:
    - Not even trying to DPS at all, like not even the occasional DoT.
    - Refusal to even attempt a hard-cast Raise, especially when it could save the party from a wipe. Having to sit there for several seconds isn't the end of the world. Surecast is a thing for a reason.
    - Berating/negative Raise macros. I like seeing Raise macros in 8-mans but there's no need for the rude/negative ones. All it really needs is a simple "Raising <t>" type message.
    - Constant, unnecessary pre-pull Regen/Medica II. Don't keep doing it intentionally. Its obvious when its a mistake or just a leftover from a previous pull. I know how to click off buffs and I won't hesitate to do it if it comes to that.

    DPS:
    - Not using AoE on bigger trash packs. If I'm doing far, far more DPS as a WHM or WAR you're doing something wrong.
    - Standing in literally every AoE in existence and dying to them all the time. Don't care if you stand in the occasional one that takes like 5-20% HP (i do stand in the weak ones occasionally and pop Surecast if I don't want to interrupt my Holy spam) but don't go standing in the bile in Aurum Fail for over a minute straight. (Next time somebody is dumb enough to do that I'm letting them die)
    - Not using things like Diversion, Lucid Dreaming, Refresh, Tactician, etc. at all or correctly.
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    Last edited by Driskus; 04-09-2019 at 08:08 PM. Reason: unnecessary character limit

  4. #164
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Most PLAYERS tend to be garbage.

    Inb4 "I'm a SAM main and I'm not garbage," as if I have any reason to believe that and even if it were true, being an exception rather than the rule isn't something to be proud of. And because I'm not from the midwest, I don't award mediocrity.
    If you want to hate on something then make it right and don't limit it to one class...

    I give a commendation if someone played well and didn't sit around all the time with both thumbs up their butts.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  5. #165
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    Nyvara's Avatar
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    Character
    Thurien Storme
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    As a tank I will commend one of the healers. Unless I can tell they aren't even trying. As healer I commend the tank unless they were a real D-bag and some how managed to avoid a kick. As DPS then of course DPS gets my vote sometimes based on how friendly or how skilled they were sometimes based on how cute their glamour is.

    But those aren't set in stone sometimes someone just really shines. Really friendly, really helpful, a healer that pulls everyone back from the edge of death, A Tank that's considerate with their pulls. you get the idea.
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  6. #166
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    Derio's Avatar
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    Derio Uzumaki
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Since Im a tank.

    In 4 man dungeons I give it to the healer unless a dps wows me.

    In 8 man I give it to my fellow tank unless they are terrible then I give it to the next best healer and then if not the best dps.

    In 24 man I give it to the best healer otherwise the most supportive dps.
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  7. #167
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    drmambo1999's Avatar
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    Character
    Osiris Wrath
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    I'm mostly on my BLM or RDM so I tend to have a soft spot for deeps.

    However, I try to give the com to people I notice playing their job to it's fullest. (for whatever lvl range the dungeon is.)

    Example. If I see another blm who might have stayed too long in an Aoe before moving pop a manaward.

    Or players using Mana shift or goad.

    Ninjas making agro for tanks and smoke bombing dps who aren't paying attention to to their agro.

    Stuff like that.

    Though I am guilty of defaulting to the other dps if I'm tired. (Unless they are exceptionally bad)
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  8. #168
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    Liam_Harper's Avatar
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    Most SAM tend to be garbage.

    Inb4 "I'm a SAM main and I'm not garbage," as if I have any reason to believe that and even if it were true, being an exception rather than the rule isn't something to be proud of. And because I'm not from the midwest, I don't award mediocrity.
    Wouldn't you commend the exception then? (By that I mean a SAM playing exceptionally well, not passably). It seems odd to ban a class from comms regardless of individual performance.

    I don't disagree and I main SAM (I won't pretend I don't have room to improve). I think the reason you see a lot of medicore SAMS is too many players see it as the "I don't have to do utility class" and less responsibility. Damage is a Sam's utility and if you aren't pushing it all the way, you bring nothing to the group. You still have a responsibility to play equally well to the Nin or Drg, you just have a different focus.
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  9. #169
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    cicatriz313's Avatar
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    Fayt Azuresky
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 80
    I tend to commend exceptional DPS players, or people who somehow make runs less mundane, be it through jokes or anything else.
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  10. #170
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    Angelov-Mercy's Avatar
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    U'canpurr Odh
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by XenoSamurai View Post
    What did SAM's do to you?

    For me I usually just commend anyone I feel did a good job, as simple as that. if everyone did good I'll just give it out at random.
    Sour notes from a BARD. lol
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    "Politics are for kings and lords, talk of wealth for merchants, the rest of us should concern ourselves with the health and wellbeing of one another."

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