So, I start a [Loot][Duty complete] for o11s. It takes about 30-40 minutes to fill.

First pull, the party wipes in about 3 minutes because someone was misplaced, sometimes happens, that's okay we'll go again and do it ri.....

[Light Party]

-_- Half the party leaves. Okay... I guess I'll wait another 30-40 minutes. Party fills up again. Okay, let's go.

First pull, the run was a bit rough, and we wiped, but we got past panto 2 and if we just do a few more pulls, we'll definitely clear... right?

[Light Party]

fffffffff...

Some people don't understand that, sometimes you gotta keep pushing forward to complete something that's supposed to be hard. If you expect to clear o11s on the first pull, in a pug group, you are going to be completely disappointed.

Guys, please continue pulls. At least give it 30 minutes of your time. Unless someone is completely clueless or is the sole reason you keep wiping, you should never leave after the initial few pulls. Get a few in so everyone acclimates to the pug.

Otherwise, just don't do o11s. You're wasting not only your time, but everyone else's time.