It has nothing to do with tp. I'm talking about mages ballad. Which of course would depend on your healer setup. I'm a white mage and my bards center the fight around me since I'm constantly healing. I can't use shrouds because I save those for dreads since cure threes and regens generate so much agree. Before I'm in need of ballad my bards are putting out 370ish almost 400 dps. Ballad lowers their dos considerably since they use it 30-40% of the fight. Most bards suffer dps loss in this fight because of it. It takes a lot to heal a tank and there is a huge mp drainage at least for white mages. (our scholar barely needs it) this is from my experience and people I know who are on t8 and have cleared it. Can't speak for your group.