DPS check for turn 8?

[Cyrus-Wallace]

As a war, I do believe you can push that damage. As a paladin, uh... show the me the way, master.

[Ricky]

As a war, I do believe you can push that damage. As a paladin, uh... show the me the way, master.

I do 230-250 DPS as WAR on the fight while also tanking the robots, it's just much easier to handle for the entire group if I blow up all the mines and the MT isn't trying to pick up the robots. Of course you need DPS who actually know what they are doing in order to 2 tank 4 dps so I suppose that's why most groups 1 tank, easier to place all the burden on the tank and healer while the DPS coast through being awful

Our group had 1917 DPS last kill (including LB2 and LB1) so I am pretty shocked when I see people can't even reach 1300-1400

[JayCommon]

Of course you need DPS who actually know what they are doing in order to 2 tank 4 dps so I suppose that's why most groups 1 tank, easier to place all the burden on the tank and healer while the DPS coast through being awful

Hmm,

Yeah I guess intercepting homing missiles, handling brainjack, proc'ing towers, (the designated homing missile person) being stacked at the right time for ballistic, splitting landmines properly without a 2nd tank all while maintaining maximum DPS is "coasting through being awful" and is TONS less than what a solo tank has to deal with in T8.


EHHHHRMAGHERD..... A DREAD?! ZOMG....CDs /doze

[Cyrus-Wallace]

I do 230-250 DPS as WAR on the fight while also tanking the robots, it's just much easier to handle for the entire group if I blow up all the mines and the MT isn't trying to pick up the robots. Of course you need DPS who actually know what they are doing in order to 2 tank 4 dps so I suppose that's why most groups 1 tank, easier to place all the burden on the tank and healer while the DPS coast through being awful

Our group had 1917 DPS last kill (including LB2 and LB1) so I am pretty shocked when I see people can't even reach 1300-1400

I MT as paladin. I have a hard time to reach these numbers. I roughly made it up to 150, but my average is 125/130ish. This is without potions or DPS-oriented food (I use the finger sammiches). As we do the solo tank strat, the extra DPS compensates that. Thankfully all the gear I have is shared with War. I'll try War tonight and check if there's any difference.

[Kyros]

I MT as paladin. I have a hard time to reach these numbers. I roughly made it up to 150, but my average is 125/130ish. This is without potions or DPS-oriented food (I use the finger sammiches). As we do the solo tank strat, the extra DPS compensates that. Thankfully all the gear I have is shared with War. I'll try War tonight and check if there's any difference.

The numbers they posted where for OTing without tank stance in STR gear. Your numbers are fine for MTing.

[SarcasmMisser]

I do 230-250 DPS as WAR on the fight while also tanking the robots, it's just much easier to handle for the entire group if I blow up all the mines and the MT isn't trying to pick up the robots. Of course you need DPS who actually know what they are doing in order to 2 tank 4 dps so I suppose that's why most groups 1 tank, easier to place all the burden on the tank and healer while the DPS coast through being awful

The funny thing is that we don't 2 tank because it puts too much burden on the tanks and healers with our tower order, and like heck are we going to change our tower order after almost 3 months of downing it with a faster strat. With 2 tanks the healers had to heal the mt, OT and dps hitting the towers at the same time, and 2 tanks gives the dps a pass on the mines and gives the burden to the tanks.

We kill it in sub 8 minutes why on earth would we want to start 2 tanking? And on the bad dps comment, we hit 2,200+. Our monk alone has sustained 470+. In any case 5 dps requires at least between 300-350 dps, which is well above average for pugs.

[Askarya]

more like 10k.
It does 250dam/pot*8ppl=2000. the pots got like 2min cd, so you can maybe use 5 of them during the fight (since there's enrage at 11min anyway) 2k dam*5=10k.
That's 6sec DPS, if you got 5 DD, with 350DPS. Maybe 4sec since DPS should be closer to 400, and tank is also doing damage.

This one is correct, i shouldn't do maths after i pulled an all nighter >.>

I pulled 406 in t8 last week w/ i110 bow. It is very possible. That was in a config with multiple BRDs though. I didn't have to do songs. Was maybe 25-30 lower this week while giving the MNKs TP a few times. Can maybe get a screen after work if you so desire.

yeah that would be nice, i think i really need to get another bard who plays songs instead for me so i can test how high i would come.

With a i95 weap and on all song duties I'd say 300-320 is pretty reasonable. Give em the benefit of the doubt and maybe say about 280 is the lowest acceptable.

i would say 260-270 is okayish if he has really no i100 items and needs to play like 1x foe at the beginning 4-5 times paeon/ballad. I had 280 on my alt when i was still gearing it up but well i had only 1 week with that gear^^

[TeganLaron]

Other than the MNK (which could still do better, but is doing enough for a kill) the DPS seems way too low across the board. As for the BRD's 220...I don't even know.

[Marxam]

Everyone needs to be atleast at 300. I managed to get into a pug in t8 as a DRG since we one tanked it. It was my first time and we cleared it in our second try with a bard dead 2 min to enrage, and we had to burn 11%.

[captain_crunch]

I believe you need 1700 as a group to clear. It's easiest with 5 dps, but a well geared war can pick up the slack if the 4 main dps are pushing around 350 or so (war + pld hopefully equaling 350 or close to it).

You could also have your 2nd healer (if sch) dps when they can.