Frontlines and Wolf`s Den - A flawed desing doomed to fail.

[Kimikryo]

SOMEBODY IS NOT THE SAME OPINION AS I AM! ENOUGH TALKING WITH YOU

*stomps feet crying*

I WANT MY CANDY NOW

*stomps feet screaming*

I SAID NOW!


OP's tldr: QQQQQQQQQQQQ; Share my opinion or get lost

[Traek]

Can we start a pot where people place money into it for every "XXX is doomed to fail" topic and then give the pot to the one who gets it right?

People were giving the similar feedback on Wolve's Den back before its release, and they/we were right. PvP is already a touchy subject in a Final Fantasy game, SE really needs all the help they can get on this one. I've essentially ignored PvP because of how its turned out thus far, and I'd love for them to succeed in Frontlines. I've actually enjoyed many a PvP in other games.

SOMEBODY IS NOT THE SAME OPINION AS I AM! ENOUGH TALKING WITH YOU

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OP's tldr: QQQQQQQQQQQQ; Share my opinion or get lost

OP brought up some valid concerns, that others share as well. They are being trivialized by some, but PvP needs all the help it can get to launch well in this game. Limiting actions of people is going to cause it to be ignored again, and makes no sense on SE's part. You however aren't contributing anything, and are just spewing inflammatory text. You are coming off worse to me, then how you perceive the OP.

[RegnumMagik]

So you people are telling me, people who just so happen picked the same GC as their friends are able to play together. And for people who picked the different GC are being isolated to solo queue is a great idea?

And before you tell me I can change to any GC, I don't want to lose my PVP ranks. The grind is already ridiculously long, and I don't want to lose my progress. Should I be punished because I play the game legitly? Oh yes let's do that.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

So you people are telling me, people who just so happen picked the same GC as their friends are able to play together. And for people who picked the different GC are being isolated to solo queue is a great idea?

And before you tell me I can change to any GC, I don't want to lose my PVP ranks. The grind is already ridiculously long, and I don't want to lose my progress. Should I be punished because I play the game legitly? Oh yes let's do that.

Both things are mayor issues coming along this desing decission.

Why players have to be punished to be part of X content?

[Felis]

During 1.0 only people in the same GC were able to do Chocobo caravan in the region of the GC (as example Black Shroud for Twin Adders members) and people still did it.
And it was not possible to change the GC.

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

During 1.0 only people in the same GC were able to do Chocobo caravan in the region of the GC (as example Black Shroud for Twin Adders members) and people still did it.
And it was not possible to change the GC.

And we all know what was the result of this kind of closed in and restrictive planification, development and delivery of content went.

[Malakhim]

And we all know what was the result of this kind of closed in and restrictive planification, development and delivery of content went.

He just finished saying the result, so we already know that. People still did chocobo caravans. Most people didn't even complain about being in different GCs back then either.

I don't really know what to say other than ask you why you and your friends aren't already in the same Grand Company? This wasn't some surprise the devs decided to toss onto us. We've known for a long while now(since Wolves' Den in fact) that this content was gonna be tied to the Grand Companies(and hence the one you belong to).

If they ain't in the Maelstrom, they ain't your friends!

[Dano]

If they ain't in the Maelstrom, they ain't your friends!

Merlwyb for life!

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

I don't really know what to say other than ask you why you and your friends aren't already in the same Grand Company? This wasn't some surprise the devs decided to toss onto us. We've known for a long while now(since Wolves' Den in fact) that this content was gonna be tied to the Grand Companies(and hence the one you belong to).

Because me and my friends might not like the lore or the gear, or even the colours of said GC talking without Frontlines in context. With Frontlines in context. there is no problem for me and my friends to be all in the same company once said content arrives... But why should i (or anyone with PvP rank) be punished by losing my PvP rank? Why would i have to be on a 30 days lockout if i ever feel like not doing frontlines for a week and doing some PvP and i want to return to my highest ranked PvP GC since is the one which allows me to use my hard earned 500 hours grinded gear? This is not about what GC to choose, and why we are not already in the same. This is how people has to pass for irrealistic, unfair, player unfriendly, punishing and retrograde restrictions ir order to play with friends.

I don`t have problems to change to any GC any given time, im just not gonna be able to move from it during 30 days, and if happens to not be the one where i have a descent PvP rank, well, i will not be able to do PvP neither for 30 days. Which sounds completely logic and fair... No, really. The whole requisite for entering Frontlines and the restrictions to move from one GC to the other are just terrible and are going to kill Frontlines on day 1 just as grind killed PvP in day 1.

Is simple, right now, the system seems fair to anyone with low to non-existent PvP participation. But for a level 30 PvP rank player, requiring him to neglect those 30 levels of PvP rank is kinda like a kick in the nuts.
I have already proposed, how hard is to make 1 universal PvP rank. Or for equiping PvP gear, that only the higher PvP rank counts for equiping said rank even if the player is in another GC. Options are many and are needed. But trying to justify SE making players who have invested time and effort in their PvP rank to forget about it just in order to play organized... Is low to say the least.