Possible Paladin Rework...

[Sipherous]

Hey all, I was looking and talking with my FC the other day about PLD vs WAR tanks. I have played a bit of both across 2 characters and despite the fact I like my PLD better the WAR has much more fun when it comes to group make up.

In 2.1 the WAR received a pretty decent rework that put it up to par with PLD and surpassing it even in a lot of situations. Looking at a PLD you don't have the luxury of the combo potential at your fingertips that a WAR does so I thought I'd throw some ideas to spice up a PLD's life from the same old repetitive combos (Halone Combo) with a lucky shield swipe if your enmity is high enough.

[Sipherous]

Shield Swipe

Next to a proc'd Halone, Spirits Within and Circle of Scorn this is our next highest dmg based skill. at 210 potency off every block this skill become very tempting to throw out. It is also one of the few GCD skills that won't interrupt a Halone Combo due to it not using the sword. Biggest problem is it give no enmity generation and unless you are not in shield oath it does little dmg with next to no enmity generation.

Two things can be used to fix it and make it a staple in PLD rotation upping our DPS slightly and giving us better options.

1. Take Shield swip off GCD and add a 3-5 sec CD to it. This makes it perfect to use between GCD's doesn't over power the skill and allows for some rotational mix ups while maintaining enmity.

2. Give Shield swipe an enmity generation passive but turn potency down to 190-200 making it weaker or equal to savage blade. This would allow us to use it more in GCD rotations without making it completely overpowered.

[Sipherous]

FLASH

Who doesn't love this skill, although after a prolonged fight it doesn't have much uses except maybe picking up the next big thing that happens to spawn quickly and effectively. A lot of talk about taking it off the GCD is needed but this would honestly hurt the skill more than you think. I would rather switch it around to have a combo potency off say riot blade making it the third combo in a chain.

Fast Blade > Riot Blade (gives MP) > FLASH (blinds target ignoring diminishing return and triples the enmity generation)

This would allow for more fun during mass pulls also during those pulls we flash so much as it is that the blind passive is effectively useless after it off from the third hit. Also Buckler type shields would become more popular due to their block rate for more DPS.

[Sipherous]

Tempered Will

This skill many regard as a niche skill, and its true. Outside of 3 fights I barely use it, except maybe when traveling on a mount and a mob heavies me. Jump off pop this jump back on and go. I would like to try this out instead although it might need some tweaking also because the game pushes so much on movement I doubt this would work well : but feel free to comment.

Turn the buff into a stance, like shield oath and sword oath. When activated you can't move but your DMG/Enimity and Def increase by 10-20% respectively and u are unaffected by knockbacks.

It would give the best of both at maybe a reduced effectiveness but basically make u a rock.

[Sipherous]

Awareness

This skill is strange, I can never tell when a boss crits me to begin with as my numbers fly around my screen at ridiculous pace. Either they need to make a Crit more noticeable so you see awareness work or maybe change it to give a 10-20% enmity increase while active so it has other uses I mean you are aware right? I don't know I'm just playing with this one XD.

The Oaths

For the love of god take these off the GCD. Maybe its just me but sometimes wasting a GCD to put these up can cost me precious seconds. Also maybe take off the MP cost as it unfair a WAR can just die res go defiance like he never died and a PLD has to wait or pop and either to get back into a stance.

COVER

I would maybe like this to apply magic DMG as well. Its another Niche skill but a lot of mobs at end game dish out magic DMG and is rather annoying when u use this only to realize your party members going die anyways

[Sipherous]

These are a few changes, some might be better balanced than others but would give PLD's a more variable play style. Tempered will is my only iffy skill as its a GLAD skill rather than a PLD one. PLD's were better balanced at the start of ARR but now I think they are to focused on one direct play style. Just food for thought yell at me if you want or add to the pool lets see where she goes.

[Thaliss]

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[Sipherous]

honestly didn't know that lol, don't use the forums to often :/

[Souljacker]

The forum character limit is a joke and should be removed.

On-topic, ANYTHING that helps paladin out is a step in the right direction. There's a handful of folks here who always step into these threads and declare gladiator\paladin perfectly tuned, but the sad fact is that Warriors have it much easier from start to finish in terms of threat generation and just general smooth-feeling\performing skills and Paladin could use some help.

[SwordCoheir]

The Oaths

For the love of god take these off the GCD. Maybe its just me but sometimes wasting a GCD to put these up can cost me precious seconds. Also maybe take off the MP cost as it unfair a WAR can just die res go defiance like he never died and a PLD has to wait or pop and either to get back into a stance.

I'd like to add how about the removal of the effect that interrupts combo's, something both MRD/WAR and CNJ/WHM has over PLD is the fact their stances not only can be swapped out on a whim without GCD being a thorn in their side is they can do it mid-combo and not have it break their chain.

Shield Bash
Great as is, but like what I was saying about Shield/Sword Oath is it interrupts your combos. Tactically I know of the advantages Shield Bash has, but at the same time if PLD's have to double down and both tank and stun enemies it makes major gaps in their enmity generation if they keep having to break their combos.