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    Hiruke's Avatar
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    Aislin Delhir
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 73

    Raise... Please don't allow it to be cast on someone who already has Raise on them

    When players get knocked out, they can have multiple Raises cast on them. For example, maybe the WHM instantly Swiftcast Raise on the BRD who just died. BRD doesn't accept, so a little while later the SCH casts Swiftcast Raise on the BRD as well. SMN gets the same idea at the same time, so both cast Raise within a couple seconds of each other. This BRD now has 3 Raises cast on them, even though really only the first one has "taken effect".

    It would be nice if someone already had a Raise on them, that they have not yet accepted, that it wasn't possible to cast Raise on them anymore until the previous one wore off. It's an incredible waste of MP, especially for a SMN, whose MP management becomes perilous after more than a Raise or two.

    At the very least, a very obvious cue that they already have Raise on them would be nice. I mean, I already blew my Swiftcast. I have to throw away a huge gob of MP, too?
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    Horatio Cornwhole
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    Marauder Lv 70
    I think this more boils down to party coordination as opposed to an in game issue. Make a macro with a sound to say you have raised the perhaps. Anyone else who casts it then is just being silly..
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    Natasha Bezukladnikov
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    i get you dont want raise stacks but what about raise and resurrect?
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    Raldo Volca
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    SCH and SMN are both mentioned in the OP. It's quite clear that Raise and Resurrection are both implied to be under the same blanket term of 'Raise'.
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    Moonfrost Hailstorm
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy01Mk2 View Post
    i get you dont want raise stacks but what about raise and resurrect?
    resurrect gives the raise effect. even says so when you cast it on someone. it shouldn't stack either
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    Tegan Laron
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    Quote Originally Posted by pikster View Post
    I think this more boils down to party coordination as opposed to an in game issue. Make a macro with a sound to say you have raised the perhaps. Anyone else who casts it then is just being silly..
    That is true, but if you've got three people with quick reflexes (as most end game content requires) they're still going to all cast it simultaneously anyway, along with three noisy macros going off.
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    Abyss King
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    Paladin Lv 60
    Pikster got it. It's called communication in parties. Lacking so much, can't even reply to hello when we start.

    so yes, as he said, like me, I macro it with <se.1 to 16> Raise <t> /p Raising <t>

    After that, its out of your control.

    Waste and management of MP is through the group effort.

    PUGs will be your worst nightmare, but at least with a macro like this, if the guys only wants to stay down and leech the kill, at least you'll know ^^

    When I'm SMN, I state that I wil be the first one to raise. WHM need their MP on better things than someone who got 'LAG'

    Have fun.
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    Last edited by KingOfAbyss; 07-01-2014 at 05:43 AM.

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    Heavy01Mk2's Avatar
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    Natasha Bezukladnikov
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildsprite View Post
    resurrect gives the raise effect. even says so when you cast it on someone. it shouldn't stack either
    i think you missed my point. i was being stupid.
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    Also don't let us Virus the Virus Immune or Benediction the dead.
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    King Adunis
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    Don't let Surecast be wasted on numerous instant casts like Fluid Aura.
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