Curious Thing about Gilgamesh

[Anonymoose]

Ferne confirmed that Gilgamesh has the Bradamante. As for Gilgamesh saying, "I've been had!" There are two ways to take that.

1) Bradamante has been confirmed to be the strongest of all spears, and he's realized he has a fake Bradamante.
2) He assumed that Bradamante was the strongest of all spears, and he's realized that this is actually not the case.

I dun think it's established canon that Bradamante is, in fact, the strongest of all spears, so I'm goin' with 2).

Greg just was really bad at using it. So bad in fact, that he called it the wrong name.

This is the best theory I've seen for Pradamante. Count me on board with that, lmao.

[Lusavari]

Ferne confirmed that Gilgamesh has the Bradamante. As for Gilgamesh saying, "I've been had!" There are two ways to take that.

1) Bradamante has been confirmed to be the strongest of all spears, and he's realized he has a fake Bradamante.
2) He assumed that Bradamante was the strongest of all spears, and he's realized that this is actually not the case.

I dun think it's established canon that Bradamante is, in fact, the strongest of all spears, so I'm goin' with 2).


This is the best theory I've seen for Pradamante. Count me on board with that, lmao.

My Understanding is not that he HAS but rather HAD it. When he was dueling people for their weapons, he had the real one. But then the accursed bird creature stole it from him, which he spends the entirety of the Hildebrand like hunting down. Is it not unreasonable that while thinking he managed to reclaim it, he found the imitation?

Rather, is it not unreasonable that Nashau found the imitation buried in the snow. It's not like She nor Hildebrand (or Gilgamesh for that matter) are smart enough to appraise a fake at first glance.

[Anonymoose]

Is it not unreasonable that while thinking he managed to reclaim it, he found the imitation?

The imitation being the aetherial Bradamante from Turn 9? If one were going to try to keep the theory alive despite the things Ferne's said about it, pointing to a future conspiracy on the subject, that'd be the route I'd take it. Turn 9 and Battle on the Big Bridge both came out in 2.2, though, so the timeline would be wonky. You'd have to take it for granted that Turn 9 not only happens independent of Hildibrand's story (probably true), but happens before it (risky speculation). And then you'd need to find a way to explain how it got from the Holocharts 3.6 miles underground to somewhere it could be found.

[Kicha]

It probably surfaced the same way everything else does, our retainers found it and decided nah, they don't deserve this. /toss
I'll just give my master a fish, masters love fish!

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

The imitation being the aetherial Bradamante from Turn 9? If one were going to try to keep the theory alive despite the things Ferne's said about it, pointing to a future conspiracy on the subject, that'd be the route I'd take it. Turn 9 and Battle on the Big Bridge both came out in 2.2, though, so the timeline would be wonky. You'd have to take it for granted that Turn 9 not only happens independent of Hildibrand's story (probably true), but happens before it (risky speculation). And then you'd need to find a way to explain how it got from the Holocharts 3.6 miles underground to somewhere it could be found.

Because it was an aetherial construct, much like the arena you fight Nael Shman Deus in?

[Toranja]

My Understanding is not that he HAS but rather HAD it.

I'm going with the "He had the real one, but fought with a fake." It goes along with the main theme of the sidequest that Venom from Spiderman swipped it.

[Morningstar1337]

I'm going with the "He had the real one, but fought with a fake." It goes along with the main theme of the sidequest that Venom from Spiderman swipped it.

Wait what? I didn't know there was a FFXIV/Spider-man crossover?