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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    So we finally agree the game has little large scale 10+ man content and little content in general? Great, so silly trying to skirt around the issue by arguing terms, but I guess the game is the real victim always, we gotta defend our game from those darn trolls amirite! Heaven forbid someone uses a WoW term to describe 10+ man content in a blatant WoW clone MMO. Good job everyone.
    The game has a lot of content despite being less than a year old, but that's another thing entirely. The term "raid" is subjective to every MMO, so the numbers required for a group vary, and I think this has been the underlying discussion all along. Is there a lot of "large scale 10+ man" content? Definitely not, and I hope to see more in the future, but this was the consensus pages back.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    The game has a lot of content despite being less than a year old, but that's another thing entirely.
    No. There are 4 current tier raid events (and previous tiers are pointless as they make group gear superior). They released a lot of content so far. But they are just replacing the same AMOUNT of content over and over.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma621 View Post
    I never understood the point of this thread anyways. He posts asking for more 24-man content a week after they show a trailer for Syrcus Tower, the newest 24-man raid.

    So they're already bringing what he's asking for, and this topic was pointless.
    Then you clearly aren't understanding the thread at all.

    /afk mode CT that drops group tier gear is NOT raid content. Raid content is something many people call "challenging" and if you think CT is a challenge I would like to know how you made it through Hard Mode primals as they are far more challenging than CT is designed to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    /afk mode CT that drops group tier gear is NOT raid content. Raid content is something many people call "challenging" and if you think CT is a challenge I would like to know how you made it through Hard Mode primals as they are far more challenging than CT is designed to be.
    The point was vehemently made that all that was required to count as a raid was multiple groups. NOW the difficulty thing comes in? Wow guys. Just wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    The point was vehemently made that all that was required to count as a raid was multiple groups. NOW the difficulty thing comes in? Wow guys. Just wow.
    The difficulty has been a factor since day 1. Also the fact that it doesn't drop raid level gear. But if you want to be willfully ignorant go right ahead. Yoshi himself has stated that CT isn't designed to be end game raid content but rather the casual content for level 50s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    Then you clearly aren't understanding the thread at all.

    /afk mode CT that drops group tier gear is NOT raid content. Raid content is something many people call "challenging" and if you think CT is a challenge I would like to know how you made it through Hard Mode primals as they are far more challenging than CT is designed to be.
    I'm sorry, I'd forgotten that you've already beaten Syrcus Tower. Have you uploaded your strategy videos yet?

    Calling content that hasn't even been released yet "easy" just makes you sound stupid and arrogant. Crystal Tower was designed as a way to get better gear in preparation for Binding Coil, without having to grind Myth Tomes. (Ya know, back when you could only get 1 piece of myth gear every 3 weeks.) And you want raids to be challenging, yet for some reason, will not acknowledge Coil as a raid just because it's not multi group.

    This game has not even been out for a year yet, and it already has twice as much content than it started with. If you're not happy with it, than it sounds like a personal problem, and you should find another game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma621 View Post
    I'm sorry, I'd forgotten that you've already beaten Syrcus Tower. Have you uploaded your strategy videos yet?

    Calling content that hasn't even been released yet "easy" just makes you sound stupid and arrogant. Crystal Tower was designed as a way to get better gear in preparation for Binding Coil, without having to grind Myth Tomes. (Ya know, back when you could only get 1 piece of myth gear every 3 weeks.) And you want raids to be challenging, yet for some reason, will not acknowledge Coil as a raid just because it's not multi group.

    This game has not even been out for a year yet, and it already has twice as much content than it started with. If you're not happy with it, than it sounds like a personal problem, and you should find another game.
    The game started with 4 end game events. Currently the game has 4 end game events. This has not increased.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    The game started with 4 end game events. Currently the game has 4 end game events. This has not increased.
    Those 4 you are counting now plus the 4 from before. CoB and SCoB are two different things. Both are end game events, one simply happens to be further along the progression treadmill.

    LotA and ST are also end game content for casual progression.

    Progression does not make previous content disappear, especially when there are significant amounts of people yet to touch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Those 4 you are counting now plus the 4 from before. CoB and SCoB are two different things. Both are end game events, one simply happens to be further along the progression treadmill.

    LotA and ST are also end game content for casual progression.

    Progression does not make previous content disappear, especially when there are significant amounts of people yet to touch it.
    No..... Group gear is superior to Coil 1 and has a lower ilvl requirement to acquire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    No..... Group gear is superior to Coil 1 and has a lower ilvl requirement to acquire.
    That's funny. Apparently you're psychic and can see the future because I don't recall them ever saying what the ilvl requirement is to enter the new CT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrial View Post
    That's funny. Apparently you're psychic and can see the future because I don't recall them ever saying what the ilvl requirement is to enter the new CT.
    Your not very good at reading are you so let me break this down for you.



    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Those 4 you are counting now plus the 4 from before. CoB and SCoB are two different things. Both are end game events, one simply happens to be further along the progression treadmill.

    LotA and ST are also end game content for casual progression.

    Progression does not make previous content disappear, especially when there are significant amounts of people yet to touch it.
    CoB (or Coil 1-5 to be clear for you) has a item level requirement that is a bigger number than the item level requirement for the level 50 dungeons. These dungeons provide a currency known as mythology as well as one commonly referred to as soldiery.

    Mythology in fact provides gear equivalent to the area referred to in this post as CoB.

    Soldiery in fact provides gear superior in every way to the gear obtained in the area referred to in this post as CoB.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
    No..... Group gear is superior to Coil 1 and has a lower ilvl requirement to acquire.
    Note no mention of the new CT's level requirement. In fact it specifically says "group gear is superior to Coil 1"
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    Last edited by Zarzak; 07-02-2014 at 04:28 AM.

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