More Raid content please!

[Roth_Trailfinder]

I still have nightmares from organizing 80 in EQ1 >.<

Eight people is a good size for endgame, it stops turning the raid leaders job and responsibility into a logistic nightmare XD Been there, done that, no thanks to doing it again ^_^

LoY had a raid, but no one bothered with it. LDoN had a couple of raid events, but few bothered with those. Time was the last real expansion that had 72 man raids, though I do remember 100+ people doing Rallos Zek in PoTactics as two raids. Starting with Gates of Discord, they cut the instance size down to 54. So even though the raid itself can still hold up to 72, only 9 of those 12 groups can enter the raid instances of the past ten years or so.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

They could CALL a raid a potato, they could CALL a group event a potato, doesn't magically turn raid or group events into starchy root vegetables though.

They CALL coil a raid - doesn't turn a single group event into a multi-group event though.

[SDaemon]

They could CALL a raid a potato, they could CALL a group event a potato, doesn't magically turn raid or group events into starchy root vegetables though.

They CALL coil a raid - doesn't turn a single group event into a multi-group event though.

Doesn't mean that a multi-group event is a raid though, no matter what YOU choose to call it. Kind of fun using your line of reasoning, however flawed it is.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Doesn't mean that a multi-group event is a raid though, no matter what YOU choose to call it. Kind of fun using your line of reasoning, however flawed it is.

Well, a multi-group event is the very definition of raid, as established by countless MMO's out there. Its not *my* definition, it is *the* definition. Or, if you prefer, it is my interpretation of the "event designed for a force larger than one group" definition. Either way, a one group event such as Binding Coil is not a raid, regardless of what *one* company chooses to mislabel it in order to promote a falsehood.

That's why I'm saying that FF14 needs more than *just* Crystal Tower for its raids!

[SDaemon]

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It is not "the" definition no matter the lengths you go to try and say otherwise because it isn't the universal definition. If you can link a source where countless MMO communities came together and decided what it is that defines a raid then by all means please provide it. Until such point that you manage to do this, SE calls Coils a raid, therefore it is a raid. You have CT and Coil as raids in this game. Better learn to enjoy them until such time that they decide to add more.

[Exstal]

On a side note, not a single person in Aion calls the alliance / league fights "raids". I played Aion for 3 years and that's not what they called. Eternal Bastion, a 24 man alliance instance, is called..EB. No one calls it raid. "You ready for EB today? How about IS (a 12 man instance). It's all X-man instance. So if you went into Aion and started calling everything a raid, they'd look at you funny then tell you to go back to WoW (lol).

[Ispen]

Coil is a raid get over it sheesh, should i go edit it into wikipedia so you will believe it?.

[Morningstar1337]

Coil is a raid get over it sheesh, should i go edit it into wikipedia so you will believe it?.

Yes please, but I;d advise getting an Army. With thus guy you're likely to get an edit war on your hand.

[Kuroyasha]

What happened to this thread being about adding more raid content? It devolved into an argument about the definition of raid >_>

[Roth_Trailfinder]

What happened to this thread being about adding more raid content? It devolved into an argument about the definition of raid >_>

Of course it did.

They are saying that because SE mistakenly calls Coil a raid, the game *does* have end-game raid content, and doesn't need to address that lack.