WoW 10 man raid and 25 man raidBy Yoshida's standards maby, not by the definition of the Genre.
Unfortunately The devs are wrong based off the definition the genre has given it. What they call it is irrelevant. It is what it says when you get a group of 8. "FULL PARTY". A single party is not a raid.
The only raid in XIV is CT1 currently and CT2 to come.
Everything else is party content.
FFXIV 8 man raid and 24 man raid
where do you exactly see any problem? its both raids. just because u dont feel it , it doesnt mean its not.


So, you define Praetorium, Castrum, Hard Mode/Extreme Mode primals all as Raids? Or full 8 man FATE parties, are they "raids" too?
The game doesn't even attempt to stretch "raid" to cover the rest of the 8 man content.
A raid is more than one group. FF14 has the 8 man group, which they decided to cut in half for much of the leveling instanced content.
We need more actual raids. FF14 is the only MMO (that I'm aware of) that has NO end-game raid content. The only reason I can think of that they are calling Coil "raid" is so they can get away with not admitting that they have no end-game raids.
I would like to see deep dungeon in this game and it become similar to how ct/lota plays with that it needs 24 people to complete it.


Some games call it different, I guess in this game RAID is 8man+ according to the DF. Regardless if it's 8-man or 24-man+, I think the OP is clearly talking about the second one. My experience in other MMOs finds that a "good raid" is not a single party but a group composed by more groups. Let's say, for example, 3 full parties. Content intended to be clear by a huge amount of players.
Isnt hard enough that we pearly find 8 players to run coil ? If there will be a new raid then there will be a lockout as coil or CT ,same issuse for us ( who dont have static ) will continue , you do know alot of people dont play coil or quite it b/c not everyone have 8 people to raid with .


IF the devs made solo player content and called them raids... would that also be a raid? Would a scientist saying the sky is Brown make it true?
They need to stop calling them raids. They by the definition of the term RAID is not a single party in a mmo.
8 man is fine if they want to focus purely on low man content for difficulty. Just call it what it is full party content.
They need to call it what it is party content. It is not breaking Genre Standards... it is just not adding raids. All mmo have party content, they just call it that.

If they made a 50 man raid and it was just hundreds of trash mobs that took hours to clear and one boss, does that make it somehow better or more interesting.
Absolutely. Anything close to that would be better than the current garbage this game has to offer regarding end game.
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