You have to laugh at how badly OP is losing to just keep resorting to "well...I don't even consider it a raid anyway!" Good for you sweetie, but pretty much everyone else here does.
You have to laugh at how badly OP is losing to just keep resorting to "well...I don't even consider it a raid anyway!" Good for you sweetie, but pretty much everyone else here does.



 
			
			
				Should I go ahead and quote OP on FSTDT or do I have wait until he brings religion/bigotry into it?


 
			
			
				Short of SE's current erroneous (and they even admitted prior to FF14 ARR's release that Coil was not a raid, if I could only find where they said it) claim that coil is a raid, there is nothing about it that makes it a raid.
It is hard, sure. It is hard group content. I've no problem with that. Some content is meant to be easy solo, some is meant to be difficult solo, some is meant to be easy group, some is meant to be hard group.
But without a second group in there with your group, it cannot legitimately be considered a raid. Thus, FF14:ARR needs more than just CT for raid content.
Yeah, don't it suck when you can't find your imaginary links when you need them most!
It's their game, not yours. Just because in whatever other games you play this wouldn't be called a raid, in this one it is. If they wanted to move Sastasha to the raid section then that would become a raid too whether you liked it or not. It's the same as how people who insist they are called DD are wrong, they are DPS. Maybe every other game calls you DD, but this one doesn't.
Exactly.




 
			
			
				Still going at it with your view of what makes a raid vs what a raid in this game actually is huh. I'm starting to feel both sorry for your ignorance and impressed with your persistence.Short of SE's current erroneous (and they even admitted prior to FF14 ARR's release that Coil was not a raid, if I could only find where they said it) claim that coil is a raid, there is nothing about it that makes it a raid.
It is hard, sure. It is hard group content. I've no problem with that. Some content is meant to be easy solo, some is meant to be difficult solo, some is meant to be easy group, some is meant to be hard group.
But without a second group in there with your group, it cannot legitimately be considered a raid. Thus, FF14:ARR needs more than just CT for raid content.


 
			
			
				Eh, it sucks when I can't find a page almost a year old. If it were imaginary, I'd know exactly where I dreamt it up!
As for saying I'm stuck on semantics, words have meaning. Raid means more than one group.
Solo content = content done by an individual.
Group content = content done by one group.
Raid content = content done by more than one group.
That's the way MMO's are.
FF14:ARR has plenty of solo content, and plenty of group content. What it lacks is raid content.
I RAID my fridge everyday when i'm hungry all by myself.Eh, it sucks when I can't find a page almost a year old. If it were imaginary, I'd know exactly where I dreamt it up!
As for saying I'm stuck on semantics, words have meaning. Raid means more than one group.
Solo content = content done by an individual.
Group content = content done by one group.
Raid content = content done by more than one group.
That's the way MMO's are.
FF14:ARR has plenty of solo content, and plenty of group content. What it lacks is raid content.

 
			
			
				OP

Even if you were right everyone here disagrees. What's the point of continuing this? Last I checked you aren't the official person who decides this. You need to find a way to deal with it. In this game raid does not mean group. There is an entire raid achievement section that specifically includes coil. I don't care what your definition is. This game calls them raids so they a raids. Deal with it.Eh, it sucks when I can't find a page almost a year old. If it were imaginary, I'd know exactly where I dreamt it up!
As for saying I'm stuck on semantics, words have meaning. Raid means more than one group.
Solo content = content done by an individual.
Group content = content done by one group.
Raid content = content done by more than one group.
That's the way MMO's are.
FF14:ARR has plenty of solo content, and plenty of group content. What it lacks is raid content.
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