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    I would love more raid content like CT
    I'm from Aion originally and I loved the large fort raids (early on in the game). Hated the lag! But that was when I had an average computer/graphics card and servers were I think in Seattle?!

    My apologies though - I'm from a JP server and our ping and success rate of CT via the DF is much better than the NA servers so maybe this won't be such a good idea in the long run for everyone? I'd hate for something to turn out really good in the JP servers but it's not accessible for everyone to enjoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    It seems you're trolling because you've been corrected many times, yet you still ignored everything. I'm happy with CT being the only alliance instance because you can't even make your own alliance. Until then, we can worry about worthless 16+ man fights and stick with what currently works.
    I've said what a raid is : content that is designed for more than one group. That is the essence of what a raid is. Regardless of the mechanics of the encounter, regardless of the loot, the flag, the difficulty of the encounter for the designed number of participants, the name of the encounter, a raid is a raid, and group content is not raid content.

    So, yes, CT *is* the only raid.

    Coil, despite the raid misclassification by SE, is not a raid, it is one-group content.

    Content is not a raid just because the developer says so - the content is a raid because the developer designs it to require more than one group!

    But, if y'all're happy with the general lack of top-end raids ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Wildstar has 40 man raids, go try that out for a month.
    Wildstar is not FF though, subpar graphics, subpar plot, horrible story writting, horrible class system. It is a poorly made WoW clone garbage graphics included.

    People do not want to go to another mmo, they want them to make XIV appealing to the masses not just the ultra casual crowd.

    Regardless of what people say this game needs content that is not low man only. And it needs relevant content that is not low man only. Variety is what makes a mmo good. SE can add 1000 dungeons if they are all 4/8man the game will still be lacking in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
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    No, sorry but let me correct you. You have said what YOU believe a raid should be. That is not however what a raid in this game is. Content is a raid because a developer says so. You saying content is not a raid though, doesn't make it not a raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    I've said what a raid is
    No...you've said what YOU think a Raid is. Give it a rest already and either shut up and enjoy the Raids (yes, plural as there's CT, BCoB and SCoB) that are in the game and those that will come in the future or leave and go find another game that suits YOUR definition of what a Raid should be.

    You've wasted 15 pages being a blow hard and trying to force your opinion on a community and game that doesn't share it.
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    Guys, we already addressed "what the developer says" with the potato bit a few pages back. Just because the developer calls it something, does not make it so.

    CT is the only raid. BCoB and SCoB are both one-group events.
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    Odin and Behemoth are raids, there's always like 80 people there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    Guys, we already addressed "what the developer says" with the potato bit a few pages back. Just because the developer calls it something, does not make it so.

    CT is the only raid. BCoB and SCoB are both one-group events.
    That's great. You like to state your opinion over and over. Log into the game. Look at your duty finder. Click raid option. Look what is there. Case closed.
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    Agreed on those two FATEs, that people essentially raid them - though they're not top end content

    Also, they are the epitome of what people decry about raids : zerging. That's not exactly a good thing. Zerging comes about from two things : either a poor raid design, or poor raid leadership that can't figure out the tactics to beat the raid without people dying and coming back over and over until the event is won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    If you are happy with CT being the only raid, then that's your call. I'm not.
    Again with the semantics. Why are you so focused on something so trivial? End game is end game. There is a ton of end game to do. Just because it doesn't contort to your silly semantics does not invalidate the content. It just means its different. I'll say it again, this game simply may just not be for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    Wildstar is not FF though, subpar graphics, subpar plot, horrible story writting, horrible class system. It is a poorly made WoW clone garbage graphics included.
    Because graphics are everything right? Geez I hate this generation of gamers so much. The graphics are not subpar its just an art style they chose to go with the theme are their game. It works fine and looks fine.. FFXIV is WAY closer to being a WoW clone than wildstar. Wildstar and WoW have almost nothing in common.


    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    People do not want to go to another mmo, they want them to make XIV appealing to the masses not just the ultra casual crowd.
    Casual by who's standard? Cuz last I checked people still struggle to clear T5.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    Regardless of what people say this game needs content that is not low man only. And it needs relevant content that is not low man only. Variety is what makes a mmo good. SE can add 1000 dungeons if they are all 4/8man the game will still be lacking in the end.
    Lacking by who's standards? Not everyone likes large scale fights. Simple fact is this game focuses more on smaller fights, that is the direction this game is in, simple as that. If you don't like it move on to something else. That's kind of how the free market works. If the game started focusing too much on CT type content? Guess what I'd simply go play a different MMO that fits my preferences as I personally think raids like CT are nothing but zergs that take little to no skill and there is zero accountability since most players can "blend in" to the group, thus they never improve.

    It doesn't make the game itself bad or invalidate said end game content. It just means I'd prefer not to play that type of focused end game.
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    Last edited by Ransu; 07-01-2014 at 10:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    Agreed on those two FATEs, that people essentially raid them - though they're not top end content
    Irrelevant. You can't form multiple groups. Can't be raided. Group content. Come back to me when we can form alliances.
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