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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    XI did this right. Jobs could use a range of different weapons, weaponskill was independent of your own level, you chose what to master and how fast.
    Eh, that's only somewhat correct. Only Warrior could use a "range" (ie: many different weapons); however, most jobs could use a few. This sense of depth or variety was simply an illusion though, as every job specialized in only one or two specific weapons. You couldn't just use whatever you want on any job and achieve equal results.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    I think Darknight, Beastmaster might want to have a word with you. To a certain extend als Bard, Samurai, Thief and Ninja
    War could pretty much use every weapon in the game, all other jobs could only use a handful.
    Also, most jobs could only skill up a certain weapon or two to the point that a DRK, for example, could skill up a Scythe and a Great Sword. So I don't understand what you're trying to refute here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinkuTachi View Post
    Eh, that's only somewhat correct. Only Warrior could use a "range" (ie: many different weapons); however, most jobs could use a few. This sense of depth or variety was simply an illusion though, as every job specialized in only one or two specific weapons. You couldn't just use whatever you want on any job and achieve equal results.
    I think Darknight, Beastmaster might want to have a word with you. To a certain extend als Bard, Samurai, Thief and Ninja
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinkuTachi View Post

    War could pretty much use every weapon in the game, all other jobs could only use a handful.
    Also, most jobs could only skill up a certain weapon or two to the point that a DRK, for example, could skill up a Scythe and a Great Sword. So I don't understand what you're trying to refute here.
    Drk could use, and skill up. Club, Sword, axe, great axe. dagger in addition to scythe and greatsword.
    Axe, Great Axe, Sword even B- rating and dagger / club c/c- respectively.

    DRK couldn't skillup/properly use 3 weapons staves, polearms and h2h.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimikryo View Post
    Drk could use, and skill up. Club, Sword, axe, great axe. dagger in addition to scythe and greatsword.
    Axe, Great Axe, Sword even B- rating and dagger / club c/c- *Marksmanship e (w/crossbows, but not guns) respectively.

    DRK couldn't skillup/properly use 3 weapons staves, polearms and h2h *Great Katanas, Katanas, Archery (but could use bows), and throwing (but could use pebbles)
    ^fixed

    Exactly! A handful of weapons, only two of which could be wielded efficiently. The others could only be useful in extremely situational circumstances; however, they never warranted any real necessity and DRK was relegated by the playerbase to Scythes and Great Swords only (though I also always carried a ranged weapon with me too). Thereby, the ability to equip those extra weapons is made pointless. Thereby, the whole idea of "player choice" concerning weapons in FFXI was an illusion; or rather, was extremely limited.

    So, unless something happened post abyssiea (when I moved on to thief, dancer, and sam) that completely changed how DRK was played, then please inform me.

    Again, I don't understand what you're trying to debate here.
    If you're just trying to be right about something, then I concede. This discussion is going in circles.
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    Last edited by ShinkuTachi; 06-30-2014 at 07:26 AM.