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    Edli's Avatar
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    Edli Papami
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Oblitae View Post
    Such as Gladiators have to have a sword and shield, they can't have a two handed weapon.
    So you have an issue with the name of classes. It doesn't matter how they're called. Your character can use both sword/shield and a two handed weapon. Each weapon gives your character different playstyles.

    If we got rid of the warrior name and would call gladiator the same in both occasions nothing would change. You still equip another weapon and get new skills.
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    Vivi Enne
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    Culinarian Lv 66
    So you have an issue with the name of classes. It doesn't matter how they're called. Your character can use both sword/shield and a two handed weapon. Each weapon gives your character different playstyles.

    If we got rid of the warrior name and would call gladiator the same in both occasions nothing would change. You still equip another weapon and get new skills.
    Oh nonono I don't, it's not that. But you can't equip a two handed weapon if you want or openly switch to a single handed weapon. CNJ is the only class that does this and there are no pros or cons that you have to weigh up and DECIDE what you want to sacrifice. You are stuck with the same type of weapon, with a different model and better stats as you progress.

    To be honest I'm perfectly happy with the way it works now, but for the sake of argument (and the OP) it's nice to speculate.
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    Felis Catus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Oblitae View Post
    Oh nonono I don't, it's not that. But you can't equip a two handed weapon if you want or openly switch to a single handed weapon. CNJ is the only class that does this and there are no pros or cons that you have to weigh up and DECIDE what you want to sacrifice. You are stuck with the same type of weapon, with a different model and better stats as you progress.

    To be honest I'm perfectly happy with the way it works now, but for the sake of argument (and the OP) it's nice to speculate.
    THM also has 1-handed weapons and shields. When you add up the stats from the two, though, it's just like a single weapon. There's not really any variation (and if anything it just means more to loot to gear up).
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    Goji Degotye
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    Botanist Lv 81
    Quote Originally Posted by Oblitae View Post
    That's not what they're saying, at all. You missed the point. The current armory system is great, and it offers customization. But there are limits to it for balancing purposes which makes sense. However, you are stuck with the same "type" of weapons. Such as Gladiators have to have a sword and shield, they can't have a two handed weapon.

    There is hotswapping from class to class, but not actually IN the class.
    For now. The only branching class uses books for both jobs but that may not be the case in the future.
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Balmung
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    Pretty much - unfortunately the term 'class' is actually misleading. The true name is 'Disciplines', as they're just a set of abilities connected with the use of a specific weapon or tool. Hence the reason why there is no branching within them, because they're not really classes at all - the class names are just titles given to those sets of abilities to make them sound more appealing. Really, the Armoury System could be kind of similar to FFXII where each character was free to equip any weapon type, but they were not given 'class' names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Vivi Enne
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    Though now that I think about it; CNJ works in this way. You can have a two handed weapon or single+shield. However, in most cases the two handed weapon is always more effective with no actual cons to it. (I'm thinking, Dark souls, when you wield a two handed weapon you are significantly slower) There are no PERMANENT speed changes. Perhaps with the introduction of rogue/ninja they'll look further into speed bonuses and what will effect it. I really do think it'll put FFXIV:ARR into a different ballpark though; and whether that'd be good or not is beyond me..
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    Barrie Capdevila
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    You know, and thats why the class balance of WoW sucks.
    You know, and thats why they change your class every big patch, and they might kill it for you, because its playstyle changed alot. (this happened to paladin.. sadly.)

    no ty.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Odin
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    Monk Lv 90
    Maybe in the future they will allow GLD to equip 2-handed swords and call them DRK! ^_^
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    Jay'nes Alexander
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    Doing that would ruin the simple and easy gameplay that apparently so many people need to play the game without sucking.. horribly..
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    Oran Kells
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I think what the OP is trying to say is that he wants a little more variety to his playstyle. Unlike WoW we don't have talent trees. Every job is highly specalized, you have one or two skill rotations and you have ONE thing to do and a big part the game is all about mastering that singular task. Job crystals are supposed to be like specs, like with arcanist can decide to roll DPS or heals depending on their job crystal. As for when other classes get multiple jobs, its anybody's guess
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