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  1. #51
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    lololink's Avatar
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    Nel Artux
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    Asura
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    They can do RDM easily, they just need to find a gameplay for it and put melee attacks and spells animations and here goes your RDM. You could even take an already existing class as an example : DRG

    2 Combo, the debuff combo and the DMG combo, 3 non buff/dots :
    Makes the Debuff combo have 2 fence skills and finish it with an instant thunder spell for dots, makes the DMG combo the same, 2 sword skill that ends with an instant spell, have the non combo buff/dots be instant spells or buffs and you have your RDM.

    You have to think out of the box. Don't think of it as a jack of all trade, but as a job that can use melee skills and magic skills and you can open new possibilities.
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  2. #52
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    i do think out of the box, it's why i say... it's maybe better to use the gun class as base for the red mage.
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  3. #53
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    Nel Artux
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    Asura
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Considering FFXIV is a fanservice game, i don't really see RDM being a gunner ( or i'll be disapointed if i don't get my rapier ), but it can be, i'd bet on Blue mage for gunner.
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  4. #54
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    Character
    Pep Per
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    I think Red Mage would be simple for them to implement.
    Scholar in a way is a healing-focused Red Mage.
    All they would need to do is apply a Stance system and even out Int/Mnd stats on their gear.
    Give him Cure/Fire/Ice 1, DoTs, Raise and an AOE, mixed stat gear and bam! Red Mage!
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  5. #55
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Yeah because all Frontline DPS want to be monks, everything else that fights mobs hand to hand has to be a Tank, and no way will anybody complain about that whatsoever
    This. We need more variety for front line DPS. Fists, spears and daggers don't do anything for me.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  6. #56
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    Edwin Li
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 100
    It is possible to make a Red Mage in FF14.

    The issue is that the Red Mage will not turn out as what most people want the Red Mage to be.

    It most likely will be a generic Melee Mage Damage DPS class/Job with it own unique Job skill mechanics (something maybe say sword enchanting or spell building mechanic) like Ninja has with it unique Job skill mechanic the symbol system.
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  7. #57
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    Deedlit Blanchimont
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Give him Cure/Fire/Ice 1, DoTs, Raise and an AOE, mixed stat gear and bam! Red Mage!
    Where's the swordplay? I don't see a Red Mage in what you put out there.
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  8. #58
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    Bringer Ofpain
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 50
    i've also given this alot of thought. rdm is a support class, and there's no room or it in a 4 man dungeon. a pure support job would either be way overpowered in an 8 man or way underpowered in a 4man. i guess they could give it a debuff while supporting like they did to bard but i don't like it.
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  9. #59
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    Deedlit Blanchimont
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    i've also given this alot of thought. rdm is a support class, and there's no room or it in a 4 man dungeon. a pure support job would either be way overpowered in an 8 man or way underpowered in a 4man. i guess they could give it a debuff while supporting like they did to bard but i don't like it.
    Since when is Red Mage a pure support job?
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  10. #60
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    RDM IS NOT BACKLINE. It is a combat mage that uses a rapier.
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