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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lexarious View Post
    No to enspells. Leave that for spellfencer.
    Implying that Spellfencer will not be a possible class for RDM As Tharian and other pointed out, The Red Mage is similar to a spellfencer already. Havinf one be a job and another being a class needed for said job wouldn't be much of a stretch.

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    by the way, i will not be surprise if they do something drastic like make the jobs for musketeer be redmage, change him weapon for a gun will solve a loooooot of trouble.
    Yeah because all Frontline DPS want to be monks, everything else that fights mobs hand to hand has to be a Tank, and no way will anybody complain about that whatsoever
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    Last edited by Morningstar1337; 06-30-2014 at 01:32 AM.

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    Duelle Urelle
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Yeah because all Frontline DPS want to be monks, everything else that fights mobs hand to hand has to be a Tank, and no way will anybody complain about that whatsoever
    This. We need more variety for front line DPS. Fists, spears and daggers don't do anything for me.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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    Edwin Li
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    It is possible to make a Red Mage in FF14.

    The issue is that the Red Mage will not turn out as what most people want the Red Mage to be.

    It most likely will be a generic Melee Mage Damage DPS class/Job with it own unique Job skill mechanics (something maybe say sword enchanting or spell building mechanic) like Ninja has with it unique Job skill mechanic the symbol system.
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    Deedlit Blanchimont
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    pss: by the way, i will not be surprise if they do something drastic like make the jobs for musketeer be redmage, change him weapon for a gun will solve a loooooot of trouble.
    No, it would give rise to far more trouble than it would solve.
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    All I have to say...

    http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen..._the_red_mage/

    This guy put more work than even the devs would into the idea.
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    When I played 11 I loved RDM. The problem in 11 most of the players wanted me to main healer and in the back row. And it was a pain in the ass to the other players that it was a dps and it was a combat mage. I just pray that if RDM does make it into the game that the players don't mess it up.
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    Asrah Stone
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    Conjurer Lv 66
    Sage has similar issues, especially as a signature sage skill, flare, is allready in game.

    Sigh, I can dream though
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    Cara Verant
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Vanilla RDM is really easy, but cross-class heavy, and also DPS.
    Base class - Gladiator, which uses Riot Blade combo much better
    Cross-class skills: Cure, Blizzard, Fire, Thunder, Swiftcast, but no Astral/Umbral buffs as those are THM's bread and butter.

    There you have your sword, your board, and your basic black magic and white magic spells, and even a poor man's Dual Cast. Anything more than that is just added flavoring. However, a little bit of added spice:
    Base class skill changes - Increased Enmity on abilities changes to Increased Magic Damage (5% per stacks, stacks up to 5x, 10s duration), possibly also Increased Healing Potency at the same time, but that might be overkill.

    This gives them a bonus to keep them in line with other DPS while also giving a reason to actually use those single-target spells. Although, giving access to Blizzard II and Fire II would also be nice.

    Thus covers RDM classic, while leaving all five Job abilities open to flavor RDM XIV's personal identity.
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    Last edited by Grey_Cain; 06-30-2014 at 02:18 AM.

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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    i think what people don't see is the fact that they need to balance the jobs... and for this... the red mage can't keep all him tool from the solo game. because the balance is not the same.
    here to have a caster that fight at melee and use black and white magic... all it miss it's be able to tank and he can do everything.
    a class that can do everything in a mmorpg it's either weak or overpowered! because we need to have a role for this sort of game. we are not alone!

    then if they leave the melee capacity to the red mage, you can be sure, that him capacity to use spell at range will disappear, all for the balance wise. but int this case, it will not be the red mage, but the rune fencer. what work for solo game, can't work for multiplayer game!
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    Nel Artux
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    Asura
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    They can do RDM easily, they just need to find a gameplay for it and put melee attacks and spells animations and here goes your RDM. You could even take an already existing class as an example : DRG

    2 Combo, the debuff combo and the DMG combo, 3 non buff/dots :
    Makes the Debuff combo have 2 fence skills and finish it with an instant thunder spell for dots, makes the DMG combo the same, 2 sword skill that ends with an instant spell, have the non combo buff/dots be instant spells or buffs and you have your RDM.

    You have to think out of the box. Don't think of it as a jack of all trade, but as a job that can use melee skills and magic skills and you can open new possibilities.
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