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  1. #1
    Player
    Urielparadox's Avatar
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    Nov 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Smily Kweh
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    the point of low lvl roulette is not for OMG awesome xp. It's to help low level players, largly dps, who wait over 40+ min ques for dungeons. IF you and you friend want to lvl don't use DR and unless you are both dps you have just decreased your wait time down to 5min for any dungeon. also you get to pick your dungeon. On DR you can get crappy dungeons that take forever and give very little xp compared to other dungeons. when you don't run dr you can pop right into whatever dungeon you want and maximize your time. So lets see if you are team up with a friend you are getting ques 15-30min faster then other people and the best dungeon for xp, Level 18 dungeons give around 200k from start to finish. while a lvl 30 one will give 300-400k xp. So the risk alone of getting a low level dungeon does not out way the advantage you get form not needing to use dr at all.

    All I did was use facts and proof to make a point. This is required everywhere in the world. IF you don't like fact's thats your issue.
    You ask a question you get an answer. You complain about the answer. People tell you 16 different reasons why what you want and reality don't match up, and provide proof. so you say stop, instead of providing a viable argument, or reason, or counteracting any ones points as to why not, all you say is, but I want it me me me. Everything you have said hurts people using ques solo, seeing as I have every job at 50 and I am more then aware of how much xp you get from dr, and none dr runs, as well as many other things. Every ranged dps had an average wait time of 30+min for dungeons at lvl 30+, on my server. every tank was instant, and healers at most 3min wait. What you are propositioning is to undue the point of DR to give you an advantage and screw over everyone who pdoes dungeons solo, which DR was created for. If you don't play with others you won't grown and learn. If you don't play with others you won't learn how to be social and you will end up in the same situation you are in.
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    Last edited by Urielparadox; 07-01-2014 at 09:54 PM.

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    Vallug's Avatar
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    Character
    Dark Falcon
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Urielparadox View Post
    I'm right
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    Tiraelina's Avatar
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    Tiraelina Kyara
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Group queuing should've been day 0 for all of them. Tossing around "but new players!" doesn't really help when you tell everyone to go make a premade rather than queue with 2 or 3. This isn't any different than the current reality of most of them having only 1 new player, 2 if you are lucky. Even in main scenario.
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Senah Kha
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I'm saddened by the amount of people who won't run low level dungeons with their friends if they can't get the roulette bonus. What kind of friend are you?

    You only get the roulette bonus once a day, and people who are leveling new characters may open up several new dungeons in a day while doing the story quest. Copperbell is almost literally one quest in the story after Tam Tara for example. So you'd help your friend with Tam Tara (assuming you get it by roulette), but when it comes to Copperbell you would refuse because you're not getting a bonus now? You wouldn't just party up and queue for it like normal? Because it's perfectly possible to form a party and just queue up for specific dungeons so that lower level people can level up.
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    Imoen's Avatar
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    Character
    Imoen Orunitia
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    It is mind boggling that they don't allow grouping for lowbie roulette.

    My only theory is, they are worried about people in groups of 4 from their FC/LS running every single day, thus shrinking the job/class/player pool for new players to que with, which would completely undermine the entire point and conception of the roulette. (Give high level players an excuse to que up via reward, to push newer players through older content)

    With that said, I find it incredibly annoying that I have to do mine separate from my partner. We run almost everything together (when allowed) and it would be awesome if we could kill 2birds with one stone, obtaining our daily reward, and playing together.

    A simple solution would be to not allow full 4man parties to que up for any 4man roulette although I don't see it happening soon (If at all) as this is most likely more complex than it sounds.
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    Last edited by Imoen; 07-02-2014 at 02:28 AM.

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    DoctorPepper's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominza
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    Character
    Doctor Pepper
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    I agree that you should be able to que for low level roulette as a party, I generally just que for specific dungeons with fc/friends for the time being and exp is still pretty good but it's nice to get that daily bonus as well. I'm hoping that eventually all of the friend gates they have put up disappear, they're slowly moving in that direction with the high lvl/expert roulette and with the coming of premade alliances which will be nice but I really don't like it when you're not able to do certain content with friends, duty roulette included.
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    Jotaku's Avatar
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    Character
    Nanael Nael
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    just let them group with NO bonus at all...
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Skadi Felis
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaku View Post
    just let them group with NO bonus at all...
    this would be ok
    Solo - 100% roulete bonus
    2 or 3 members - 50% roulette bonus
    4 members - 0% roulette bonus
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    MeeDeggiThePunisher's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Sevro Barca
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    How many times does it need to be said? LOW LEVEL ROULETTE IS NOT FOR YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS TO FARM! There are a million other options for friends to choose from, leave low lv roulette for newbs.
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    Stormbad's Avatar
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    Character
    Stormbad Worldfire
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 60
    In my opinion, I think they should open up low level roulette to a max group of 3 people so at least one low-level/newbie is always being helped with their dungeon.

    Also, keep the low level roulette bonus permanent rather than only once a day. This allows low-level/newbie to always have a constant flux of experienced people to help out and this allows the experienced people to have other methods to farm myth other than mythflox.

    And to punish the experienced people from leaving "unwanted" low level dungeons, make it so once they leave the duty, they are no longer eligible for the roulette bonus for that day.
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