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  1. #31
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    Sadana's Avatar
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    Valia Rosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomTom1968 View Post
    I wish they would open the low level roulette for premade groups. When somebody in my FC asks for help in a low level dungeon, not that many people answer them if they have their combat classes levelled to 50 already. If there was a 100 Myth reward, I am sure they would help more often.

    And let's be honest, sometimes the low level dungeons take longer than the Level 50 ones because people in there are new to the dungeon. Yesterday I helped a mate from my FC and we spent mindnumbing 80 minutes in Temple of Quarn because the DD's did not understand the Death sentence mechanics from 1st boss although it was explained in detail and more than once.
    As others have stated, the LL DR is to help newbies with dungeons they need. You get paid extra myth to put up with this. If you don't like it, find other ways of getting myth (or experience points in the case of folks with alts or those leveling sub classes). FC members should help each other cause that is what the FC is for, not because they are paid to.

    The DR is in no way, shape, or form mandatory nor the only way to get into a dungeon.

    Guess what OP, if you enter a dungeon with your gf as a tank and dps, you're probably going to enter right away AND you get to pick which dungeon you want to do! Bonus!!
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    As others have stated, the LL DR is to help newbies with dungeons they need. You get paid extra myth to put up with this. If you don't like it, find other ways of getting myth (or experience points in the case of folks with alts or those leveling sub classes). FC members should help each other cause that is what the FC is for, not because they are paid to.

    The DR is in no way, shape, or form mandatory nor the only way to get into a dungeon.

    Guess what OP, if you enter a dungeon with your gf as a tank and dps, you're probably going to enter right away AND you get to pick which dungeon you want to do! Bonus!!
    Then they should make it to where if you are not level 50 then you can queue together. I see it as silly we cannot queue just to use it as a EXP device. The only reason I run it is for exp on a non level 50. I do not waste time using it as a myth source. It takes a whole run away from me and my friend using it to level alt classes.
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  3. #33
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    Adding onto that though. I have a new friend who started playing who does not understand why I cannot queue up with her when she does the low level routette after she gets to 15. She is playing to play with me so she does not find it as enjoyable to not be able to queue up with me. Yes I get it is RANDOM. But I see it more as RANDOM in choice of dungeon. I would rather have low level duty roulette be able to party up than expert or high level. The option for the player should be there. We should not be gated just cause.
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  4. #34
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    Seijuro Hiko
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    ITT: it's impossible to tag a low level DUNGEONS. they are all locked if you don't use the roulette.
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  5. #35
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    Smily Kweh
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    the point of low lvl roulette is not for OMG awesome xp. It's to help low level players, largly dps, who wait over 40+ min ques for dungeons. IF you and you friend want to lvl don't use DR and unless you are both dps you have just decreased your wait time down to 5min for any dungeon. also you get to pick your dungeon. On DR you can get crappy dungeons that take forever and give very little xp compared to other dungeons. when you don't run dr you can pop right into whatever dungeon you want and maximize your time. So lets see if you are team up with a friend you are getting ques 15-30min faster then other people and the best dungeon for xp, Level 18 dungeons give around 200k from start to finish. while a lvl 30 one will give 300-400k xp. So the risk alone of getting a low level dungeon does not out way the advantage you get form not needing to use dr at all.

    All I did was use facts and proof to make a point. This is required everywhere in the world. IF you don't like fact's thats your issue.
    You ask a question you get an answer. You complain about the answer. People tell you 16 different reasons why what you want and reality don't match up, and provide proof. so you say stop, instead of providing a viable argument, or reason, or counteracting any ones points as to why not, all you say is, but I want it me me me. Everything you have said hurts people using ques solo, seeing as I have every job at 50 and I am more then aware of how much xp you get from dr, and none dr runs, as well as many other things. Every ranged dps had an average wait time of 30+min for dungeons at lvl 30+, on my server. every tank was instant, and healers at most 3min wait. What you are propositioning is to undue the point of DR to give you an advantage and screw over everyone who pdoes dungeons solo, which DR was created for. If you don't play with others you won't grown and learn. If you don't play with others you won't learn how to be social and you will end up in the same situation you are in.
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    Last edited by Urielparadox; 07-01-2014 at 09:54 PM.

  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urielparadox View Post
    I'm right
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  7. #37
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    Group queuing should've been day 0 for all of them. Tossing around "but new players!" doesn't really help when you tell everyone to go make a premade rather than queue with 2 or 3. This isn't any different than the current reality of most of them having only 1 new player, 2 if you are lucky. Even in main scenario.
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  8. #38
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    Umo Heima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
    ITT: it's impossible to tag a low level DUNGEONS. they are all locked if you don't use the roulette.
    Huh!?
    This is a clear indicator on how people are that crazy focused on Duty Roulette and/or not willing to help low level mates.

    PS. You may be joking, though... If that's the case, I clearly don't get the joke
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    Last edited by Umo; 07-01-2014 at 10:46 PM.
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  9. #39
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    Sakasa Kuro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallug View Post
    Adding onto that though. I have a new friend who started playing who does not understand why I cannot queue up with her when she does the low level routette after she gets to 15. She is playing to play with me so she does not find it as enjoyable to not be able to queue up with me. Yes I get it is RANDOM. But I see it more as RANDOM in choice of dungeon. I would rather have low level duty roulette be able to party up than expert or high level. The option for the player should be there. We should not be gated just cause.
    Actually your not gated just cause, the bonus reward is aimed at a specific person, just like drops come from specific dungeons. So are you gated from battlemage gear because you have now out leveled it and don't want to go back? No but you will have to take the xp/kill hit from being above the level for it. It not a tool for leveling as much as it is an incentive, similar to the bonus in dungeons instead of low-mid level fate grinding.
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  10. #40
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Senah Kha
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I'm saddened by the amount of people who won't run low level dungeons with their friends if they can't get the roulette bonus. What kind of friend are you?

    You only get the roulette bonus once a day, and people who are leveling new characters may open up several new dungeons in a day while doing the story quest. Copperbell is almost literally one quest in the story after Tam Tara for example. So you'd help your friend with Tam Tara (assuming you get it by roulette), but when it comes to Copperbell you would refuse because you're not getting a bonus now? You wouldn't just party up and queue for it like normal? Because it's perfectly possible to form a party and just queue up for specific dungeons so that lower level people can level up.
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