SE why??

[Moqi]

Changing class is not an option, you would obtain the upgrade for another job's weapon.

I was talking about farming myth with Brayflox speedruns.

[JonBigwood]

I was talking about farming myth with Brayflox speedruns.

I know, but If you want the Monk's weapon, changing to BLM and obtaining the BLM's weapon is not an option (for obtaining the Monk's weapon, that is.)

[Nutz]

Changing class is not an option, you would obtain the upgrade for another job's weapon.

I think he means specifically for the myth farming. I've been doing my MNK's weapon, but all of the atma and a lot of the myth farming has been done on BLM.

EIDT: Beaten, but kinda funny that I've been doing exactly what's 'not an option', though it's just a coincidence. I had BLM leveled already.

[JonBigwood]

I think he means specifically for the myth farming. I've been doing my MNK's weapon, but all of the atma and a lot of the myth farming has been done on BLM.

EIDT: Beaten, but kinda funny that I've been doing exactly what's 'not an option', though it's just a coincidence. I had BLM leveled already.

Ah, now I understand. Of course you can obtain the myth tomes and also the atmas with one job and spend them on another, I thought the suggestion was to change jobs forever, misunderstanding... :-) You need to complete the books with the weapon you want to upgrade, that's for sure ;-)

[Worm]

*snip*

Well it's not happening yet. Though if you continue to see this trend of the preferred way of running dungeons being AOE spam you'll have a lot of trouble finding non-roulette groups. Especially if there will be a tome nerf each extra part of this relic there is, unless they start Soldiery Tomes for the next branch with this nerf in place to begin with. Honestly my issue isn't the grind but instead the style of which current content dungeons are being run.

Also roulettes take time. I mean are you doing all yours in under an hour? I guess it all depends on your luck having to do 4 roulettes a day is a little much. Of course I'm sure you'll reassure me it's the same exact thing as being able to get 10 tomes a minute.

If they keep this design for the next relic I'll definitely be leveling a BLM.

[Moqi]

I think he means specifically for the myth farming. I've been doing my MNK's weapon, but all of the atma and a lot of the myth farming has been done on BLM.

This is what I meant. Sorry if it wasn't clear.

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Dude, if you want to speedrun, you'll have to use the fastest party, otherwise what kind of speedrun is it? This game is throwing myth at you everywhere. You have maps, you have beast tribes, you have roulettes, dungeons and raids, and soon we'll have even more options, with frontlines and whatnot. If you want the fastest way, which currently is AoE trash mobs down in Brayflox, then you're gonna have to play a job that does just that, it seems pretty logical. Otherwise, you can get myth in other ways - that don't take that much more time and you can do it in other ways. Again, a book every 3 days is not and endless wait. I'm doing just that btw. It's perfectly designed to be completed by any class at the same amount of time - and with the armory system, anybody can take the "Brayflox shortcut" regardless of the weapon they want to upgrade. There is no issue.


Anyway, this is about Atma, not Animus, so I'll stop here. For OP I've got not much to say except keep trying. I got 7 Atmas in 2 days and the 8th after 3 weeks of nothing. Just don't obsess over it, do some FATEs while you wait for other things and eventually you'll have 12. The more you think about it the more it'll piss you off, so don't. If it makes you feel better, it's downhill from there.

[Worm]

I'm not saying anything about the myth grind being an endless wait. I'm saying that having AOE farm being the optimal way of running dungeons is bad and will have negative side effects. I don't even know if you're reading posts at this point. I mean it's certainly not perfectly designed and I sure don't think I'm going to be getting 500 Myth as fast as a farming group by going through four roulettes. It's just becoming another daily grind at that point

I mean honestly we're in agreement here. You just can't stand a flaw in the design being point out and want to show me how it's really not a problem because I have the option of just leveling up the optimal class! So there's really no issue with some classes being bad for dungeon runs because you can just level up an optimal class! I mean if they go with this myth grind for the next step I guess I'll do just that. Though it's certainly not "no issue" because I need to cap out another class to reduce my daily chore farming.

[Angelfish51]

I finished the atma and aminus grinding but I decided to quit as I predict the game will require me to invest more and more time in boring content. To maintain the progress, one have to do at least daily roulettes and the weekly binding coil, but the weapon quest just takes up all my daily limited playing time and even some of my rl and I can't see the end as SE can extend it indefinitely. One may say that you don't need to do it if you don't like, if I have that mentality, I won't be a MMO player, and that's y I quited. I am not saying that grinding is not a good thing as it is a good time killer when one gets nothing to do, but I just prefer to spend my time doing more pleasure rl things.

[AbstractLemons]

The worst part is that for classes like SCH the relic weapon quest line is actually BiS slot at the moment. So as someone who mains SCH I don't have too much incentive of doing t9 for the book. As the high allagan gives +46 crit and +26 piety( scholars are not starved for piety as they have a low cost physic and get free heals from pet on top of having aetherflow and drain) The novus weapon can have +44 crit and +31 det, so the difference in crit is negligible and with det I will get bigger heals over all. So...if relic was intended to be second BiS then the system is terrible as this is obviously not true and on top there's no guarantee that they will ever get passed the atma part of the quest line....so that's not really fair with coil at least SOMETHING drops.

[Axlle10]

Update: As of 2.3, the Animus and Novus upgrades will be getting easier with all the increased myth gains from bosses and dungeon completions! But atma questline is still solely based on luck. Yoshi and the devs have decided that an RNG only system is still the logical way to go. This makes me ROFL. They have lost touch with reality i think. They deliberately decrease the time needed to complete the second and third parts of the weapon upgrade, yet do nothing to help those who are not as lucky as everyone else.

As the great Yoshi would say: Please look forward to it, but its working as intended so screw you guys. HAHAHAHHAHAHA!