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  1. #11
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    Yes, please.

    I've already noticed going through Toto-Rak that if you happen to get a piece of gear from a treasure chest in the middle of the run, you either have the person it went to not notice or the group doesn't really have time in the dungeon to discuss who the gear should be going to.

    A lot system would be much easier to figure out since your group can discuss rules on it beforehand.
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    Last edited by Shikaree; 07-24-2011 at 05:31 AM.

  2. #12
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    Xatsh Vei
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    As other said the lotting system is horrible...honestly it prevents any form of organized lotting to take place and even encourages theft (the drop randoming to someone who has no intention to pass to who it should go to).

    1.18 is a great patch... but with dungeons, and more focus on pickup groups and what not... the lotting system is a critical system that needs to be completely redesigned... or just copy a system that works I do not care... just trash the current one in its entirety.

    Where there is the possibility for theft, it is guaranteed to occur eventually. Leaders need some way or managing drops to prevent it from happening.
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  3. #13
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    Osarion Durai
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    Just fyi that isnt the point at all, it was just the icing on the cake that he wasnt even the correct rank. i wasnt there but there is no reason to not implement a proper loot system.
    Isn't that pretty much what I said? 49 getting a 50 item is irrelevant to the bigger point, which is yes, we do need an improved loot system.
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  4. #14
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    Give everyone equal chances at getting the top gear. The lot system is fine! You guys just want a monopoly. Get all the top Gear and sell it for millions. If you don't trust people in your party, your loss.

    NO, I won't heal you!
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  5. #15
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    Aedan Yarborough
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    I wish everyone would stop worrying about what other people get for loot. Is this a manifestation of horrible jealousy and entitlement? If someone gets the random drop, who is anyone else to demand that item? It isn't like people can't switch jobs on the fly, you know. Does it matter if that glad got a con body? How do you know they can't or won't use it now or in the future? How are you more entitled to it then they are? I mean, if people are willing to say "here, have my item" great, but it shouldn't be expected nor should SE change the game to accommodate that kind of mindset. I really don't get it.

    XIV should do it the way DDO does it. Loot drops in the chest for everyone in the party.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I wish everyone would stop worrying about what other people get for loot. Is this a manifestation of horrible jealousy and entitlement? If someone gets the random drop, who is anyone else to demand that item? It isn't like people can't switch jobs on the fly, you know. Does it matter if that glad got a con body? How do you know they can't or won't use it now or in the future? How are you more entitled to it then they are? I mean, if people are willing to say "here, have my item" great, but it shouldn't be expected nor should SE change the game to accommodate that kind of mindset. I really don't get it.

    XIV should do it the way DDO does it. Loot drops in the chest for everyone in the party.
    This is not how guilds functions.

    The purpose of an endgame guild to come together as a group and become stronger over time, letting it be trully random is the most counter productive thing that can happen. I can almost 100% guarantee any serious endgame guild can agree to this... if they don't I question if they will last more then a few drops, will be internal drama like mad.

    If you are in an endgame situation and you take an item that you are not up for it is theft regardless if SE's random thing gives it to you.

    My ls we instantly kick you from the LS if you intentional take something that is not going to you (Includes afking after it drops), and plaster your name on many different sites to try to make sure we completely ruin your game experience on the server.. fairly standard policy as well I think. Sounds harse but then again need to make sure that person doesn't screw over another LS doing the same thing.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    This is not how guilds functions.

    The purpose of an endgame guild to come together as a group and become stronger over time, letting it be trully random is the most counter productive thing that can happen. I can almost 100% guarantee any serious endgame guild can agree to this... if they don't I question if they will last more then a few drops, will be internal drama like mad.

    If you are in an endgame situation and you take an item that you are not up for it is theft regardless if SE's random thing gives it to you.

    My ls we instantly kick you from the LS if you intentional take something that is not going to you (Includes afking after it drops), and plaster your name on many different sites to try to make sure we completely ruin your game experience on the server.. fairly standard policy as well I think. Sounds harse but then again need to make sure that person doesn't screw over another LS doing the same thing.
    Good for you. Your LS seems super organized and runs with set rules which people agreed to in order to join. You certainly don't need the game to run your loot system nor does everyone else need to follow your LS's rules.

  8. #18
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    Baelari Khalahko
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    I hate the loot system right now. It's not that I'm not getting my fair share (it seems like 75% of the drops go to me for some reason), it's more that it's annoying to ask who wants the piece, list all the stats, try to pass to that person, then usually the person is out of range, I track down the person, but person's loot list is full and cannot receive the piece, and then I wait for them to clear a spot to give it to them. Just... not a very elegant solution to loot distribution.
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  9. #19
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    Khaien Akiyama
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    I don't like and don't understand the entitlement issues some people have, where if someone gets an item fairly through the current system they feel that the person who got it doesn't deserve it..
    But.. I do think it would be helpful if there was a party treasure pool and lotting system like XI, so if people DON'T want the item, they can pass it for others.
    I believe everyone should have a fair chance at the items earned by the party, regardless of rank/level and class/job.
    Someone with higher levels doesn't deserve it more than someone who worked just as hard for it.
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    Last edited by Nabiri; 07-25-2011 at 08:33 AM.

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    Indira Cliodhna
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    remember ffxiv is " im playing solo" partying is optional. so who needs a loot system is what SE thought.
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