This needs to stop !

[Worm]

Yeah well, I mean I guess we can pretend these people were great bastions of the community until the Animus pushed them over the edge.

Also gee I wonder if you could just find a bunch of i90+ people on your own server doing the same dungeons. Wouldn't that be convenient? I mean I'm sure there wouldn't be anyone else doing the same dungeons, pretend I never said that.

I mean I'm sorry I glossed over your mentioning Animus but it's an even MORE bullshit point than Myth. I mean ONE out of THREE dungeons are going to be low level anyway, so let's correct your nonsensical 27 to 9(EDIT: I'm actually looking for a list for this because I don't remember, but it felt like it was always one Expert, High Level, and Low Level roulette's worth, either way it's lower than 27). Or I guess we can continue to PRETEND people in this thread are upset about skipping chests in Pharos. So out of your ENTIRE ANIMUS GRIND we're talking maybe an extra hour and a half?

The only issue causing tanks to behave this way is them, end of discussion.

[shiroxkatsuya]

if they ask nicely i am more than happy to do full runs...as long as its not stone vigil >.>. it's not just tanks though, df in general just sucks. they really need to make all roullettes group-able already.

[alimdia]

think of the other persons view~

[Defteros]

When I usually do the Roulette Low, and somebody asks to kill every mob in the dungeon, I don't really mind, it fells nostalgic, going back and do things I was doing while struggling to get to lv 50 xD

Still, it happened to find rude people that would complain if a low level player wants the exp in that dungeon..

I was in a party with a Scholar who would ignore the low level tank and aggro everything because "come one I want to do T5 after".

I feel sorry for low level player, and I tempt to adapt my play based on their experience in the dungeon...
If a tank is new, as a BLM I don't use aoes or I sleep mobs if they are more than 3...

[Marianno]

For situations like this, I don't bother to ask if anyone needs loot from said dungeons regardless of what dungeon it is. Instead as a tank I take the time to look at all party members search info. Thus prompting two options,

1. If this is their first time in the dungeon and/or they are level synced or this is their first class they are leveling then I clear all rooms and I roll pass on everything because chances are my party members could use the gear more than I can.

2. If none of the above applies in the first requirement then I clear mobs and take the direct routes to the bosses.

[Sayora]

I just clear the mobs between me and the last boss. If anyone wants a full clear they can just ask for it, but only if they ask for a full clear for exp. I'm not gonna play mind reader.

[Yoninxi]

If you don't ask for a full clear. You will not get a full clear. I'm not gonna go out of my way for people who say nothing to me in the dungeon unless it's to complain.

[hdepaula]

I personally dont think a dungeon should be a place to farm for levels, specially if you're a DPS, i just do fates and i know its old school but if it still works, hey. Like, why wait 30+ minutes to get in a dungeon with a tank that tanks like that? in fates you do your thing, you do what you want and get to lv 50 at the speed that you want. I stopped being a tank because i dont know why but ppl always think that they can tell what the tanks can and can not do and when i look at their list of classes some doesnt even have a tank class but when i see that some ppl do have a tank class im like 'then why the hell dont you tank so you can solve the problem of always entering dungeons with tanks that sucks". I do dungeons because i have to (quests) or when im really really bored, but hey, dont listen to me, im just a guy who just hates dungeons and only do them for rewards. I like when tanks do that though when im doing the Roulette, i like to get my Allagan pieces as fast as I can

[ZaaZaa]

That tank might not be a jerk, since MOST people want to skip the skipable. BUT, the play here, i beleive, would be this : tank needs to ask if all players wish to skip. If he doesn'T ask and just go... i would heal but i would ask to hold on once that pull is over with. THEN i would proceed to explain my opinion and ask the party if anyone needs any XP or items... REfusing to heal is assuming the tank is a jerk. So it's assuming wrong. BUT, a tank that doesn'T ask and skip is also assuming wrong.

[Aika_Nakamura]

A healer should honestly have the heaviest weight in the party (this is coming from a tank, I'm aware of my responsibilities). They're sustaining this tank, and usually most of them display a level of asshattery (I've done it before, I'll be honest, but I've been in bad moods before, and usually correct myself by the end) that I can't even fathom. I don't understand why the tanks think so highly of themselves, because they're nothing without a healer.

I hate how a lot of the end-game players display some level of superiority compared to the lower level players, or to each other in general. It seems that even if you're the most polite person ever, you'll launch a new Calamity in someone's mammories.

The community is sadly toxic, but at the same time I meet plenty of people who seem relatively cool with a lot of things.

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