This needs to stop !

[Worm]

*snip*

Oh cry me a river, you can just mythflox farm. If you're doing roulettes instead of Mythflox as a tank you JUST DON'T CARE ABOUT SPEED.

EDIT: Kind of hammered this out in a dungeon I mean I guess I get the point for books but I don't think that's a lot of it. I've just seen this attitude out of people in so many games, especially MMOs. There are so many egomaniac tanks out there who let their King of Duty Finder status go to their head. It's not that DPS can't be as nasty as speed. Though we have just as many DPS getting their books significantly slower and you don't see threads about DPS refusing to DPS extra rooms that got pulled.

[Daniolaut]

Oh cry me a river, you can just mythflox farm. If you're doing roulettes instead of Mythflox as a tank you JUST DON'T CARE ABOUT SPEED.

OH get your facts straight. I made sure to say Animus books in my post. So i'm not doing roulettes for myth genius i'm having to do low level for the book.. please read next time you try to insult someone.

[Yonko]

Whining about how your time is more important and you should be rewarded for helping the lowly people level jobs.

please don't attempt to speak for everyone at end game. Not everyone is as self entitled as you come off.

If your time really is that important that you just want to run through the dungeon then create a party of other level 50 players and do it that way. If you do it through DF then you are going to get people who are still trying to level. Refusing to help them is kind of a dick move. Doubly so if you manage to get it through roulettes.

[yumemirai]

As a tank, I'm happy to go speed run or full clear if my party wants it, and I'll explain bosses and mechanics and stuff aforehand.

Way I figure it, I'm not a tank for me, I'm a tank for you. :3

[ClaireAbigail]

I believe both are at fault assuming that majority of the party agreed to going through all the areas. The healer held the party hostage by not healing the tank and the tank should've listened to the majority and dealt with the few extra min doin the optional stuff

[Vladislav]

Usually i ask party if they want kill trash/ check every room , BUT if i need to rush , i will rush w/o asking or just leave.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Extra trash in stone vigil is just a pain. Even when leveling I'd opt to skip trash in there. It just isn't worth the effort to kill even for the exp.

[TouchandFeel]

This really just seems like a situation of "I want something because I feel its best for me and somebody wants something else because its best for them, but I should get my way."

Keep in mind that if it is a lvl50 doing roulette for tomes or running a low lvl dungeon for a book, they are going want to be in and out as quickly as possible because, well grinding for that stuff can be tedious and nobody really wants to stretch it out any more than they have to.

However if someone in the group is new to a dungeon or asks if they can do a full clear, whatever high lvls be it the tank or whoever, should be willing to help them out and do the full clear, as long as they are polite about it.

Now, IMO killing all the mobs is not necessarily the most effective way to get xp. I find doing multiple quick runs to be more productive for getting drops and xp than more drawn out full clears. If you need or want the achievement for mapping a dungeon, that is a different story and totally valid.

Speaking specifically about Stone Vigil, I feel the side rooms are really not worth it. They aren't necessary for the achievement and the chests in them tend to have junk loot in them that isn't worth the inventory space they take up. Worn chef's apron ... um, no thanks. As to the xp that would be gained by killing these mobs, I stick to my previous statement that multiple quick clears are more productive than longer full clears.

Lastly, if you want to do a dungeon in one specific way, that is what the Party Finder is for. If you are using the Duty Finder, you really need to just adjust to what situation you end up with and what the majority of the group you ended up with wants. This goes both ways, don't force speed runs and don't force full clears, appraise the situation and if in doubt ask what the group would like or be okay with.

[Tyrial]

Snip.

There is one chest in Stone Vigil that offers "good loot" that is optional and that's right after killing the first boss. The other chest(s) that got skipped are nothing but crafting mats stuck behind a few mobs that honestly aren't worth killing. As far as I remember you get the mapping achievement without even having to engage the mobs in either of those rooms (just walk up the stairs for the first and run right by the second).

What really needs to stop is this epidemic where people feel they're entitled to have everything their way in a group regardless of what the majority wants. You're in a Duty Finder 4/8-person dungeon and 3/7 want to do a speed run? Majority wins. Don't like it you can leave and not act like a child. Same situation and 3/7 of the 4/8 people want to take it slow? Same deal.

If nobody else voiced a concern with skipping 5 or so monsters then what is the big deal? If losing the EXP from those few monsters is the biggest crisis you face then I really wish I lived in your world.