This needs to stop !

[Sapphic]

Tanks are already stressed out enough by their jobs. If they don’t want to honor one of your requests, please stop demanding that they play the way you want them to. They are not obligated to help you do anything.

Don't know what game you're playing, but tanking in FFXIV stressful? lol, newp. Tanked everything as WAR and PLD outside second coil, and tanking is, in most fights, the easiest role. Even our main tank in SCoB jokes that they have the easiest role in t6-8 (we havnt done 9 yet so no comment on that).

Tanking stressfull in FFXIV? Far from it.

[Worm]

The tank has the most responsibilities; He leads the group, decides when to engage, and controls the pace of the run. They are responsible for the survival of the group, so the tank should always get the last say so in how to run a dungeon rather his pug likes it or not. Tanks are already stressed out enough by their jobs. If they don’t want to honor one of your requests, please stop demanding that they play the way you want them to. They are not obligated to help you do anything.

This attitude. I tanked a long time in WoW and let me say tanks usually have one of the easiest jobs. It only becomes hard when they're the defacto raid leader/caller/coach/babysitter because the job is generally that braindead the tank is usually given as many extra roles as possible since the healers and DPS generally have to concentrate.

It becomes hard when you're trying to have raid-wide vision, while watching timers, and rotating your own cooldowns. Beyond that the job doesn't get any more complex between pressing your personal CDs at the right time, maintaining threat, and moving out of a few cones.

Sometimes if you have to kite, manage some mechanic, or pick up a lot of mobs it can be pretty stressful, but typical dungeon face roll stuff? I dunno. We are going to have people doing sub 4 minute Brayflox myth runs once they get geared in the next patch, there's nothing hard about that content.

[CheshirePuss]

No, this doesn’t need to be stopped. I think a lot of you are forgetting that this is a MMORPG. The tank has the most responsibilities; He leads the group, decides when to engage, and controls the pace of the run. They are responsible for the survival of the group, so the tank should always get the last say so in how to run a dungeon rather his pug likes it or not. Tanks are already stressed out enough by their jobs. If they don’t want to honor one of your requests, please stop demanding that they play the way you want them to. They are not obligated to help you do anything.

Say what you will, but if a tank wants to act like they're the only member of a 4 person party that has the intention of running that dungeon for a reason, then they may as well have not started playing an MMO to begin with. It entirely defeats the purpose of it being a party. Not up for that hierarchy bullcrap.

[Sassi666]

The tank has the most responsibilities; He leads the group, decides when to engage, and controls the pace of the run. They are responsible for the survival of the group, so the tank should always get the last say so in how to run a dungeon rather his pug likes it or not.

The exact same thing happened to me as well. Halfway through Brayflox I get blackmailed with no heals by my pug..

So it's OK to blackmail a group if you're the tank but not if you're the healer lol
also no the tank isn't the most important member of the group, they just think they are. See how you go without heals....I've finished runs with no tank with a summoner using an egi or a dragoon tanking but you can't finish a run without any heals - and no I'm not a healer :P

[AmyNeudaiz]

As a healer, I refuse to heal tanks that refuse requests to kill mobs.
As a tank, I refuse to ignore extra mobs that another player asked me to get.
As a DPS I really can't do much other than assist in a vote kick or offer /support x.x

[dspguy]

What Cold Raven said - if someone isn't level capped, I do the whole place (assuming tanking). Except, if that person isn't pulling their weight (afk/distracted) then I just work towards the end, skip mobs/treasure/etc.

[Adler]

If I am dps I follow tank - if he moves fast and avoid mobs I follow, if he enter every single room and clear everything I follow. I have very low level healer but same rules applied to heal runs also.
If I am tank and join a dungeon I have done 100+ times through low level roulette then I will most likely kill only mobs directly in may way to last boss unless all 3 party members are clearly doing the dungeon for exp.
I have to admit that OP sounds like a dik to me though and in tank's place I would have kept rushing to last boss - if the touched healer would vote me out it still would be less stressful. If he wouldn't vote but just kept complaining I would simply leave and craft/gather something for half an hour.

[AerysDarkstrike]

When I tank I usually skip non-essential mobs unless someone asks to take them.

[Daniolaut]

The problem here is that Square Enix is forcing players who are level 50 and have manymanymany things to do, to go back and do leveling content.

I understand the reasoning but many people who are at "endgame" have so much to do as it is, asking them spend 40 minuets+ in a dungeon where all they get is a 1 Animus book kill from the final boss only or a few tomes when .. you need:

27 boss kills, and 13,500 myth of which only consistutes for 10 item levels on just your weapon, i'm sorry to say, that no, most tanks, dps, or healers will want to spend forever killing mobs that take that much more time.

I dont mind the animus books but many people do and this was honestly not a very good approach at all to force people to revisit dead content simply because there is literally no reward to revisit it for reasons besides one boss kill. If each mob had a chance at dropping an Alexandrite, or another Atma, or something worth while you can bet your butt they'd be killing every single mob. Since that isnt the case then, yes you are going go have issues like this.

[Mjytresz]

I love the ego tanks have.
As a Scholar main, I can and will let shitty tanks die until they leave. That Dragoon sitting in the back with Int Accessories made the better tank anyway.