Suggestion: Greed, Need and "I'll take it if no one else wants it..."

[givemeraptors]

that factors in a) the item type and level and b) whether other party members who roll Greed have a class cooresponding to that type unlocked at or below that item level. So a player could choose the new lower tier which would still have Greed priority against rolls from someone not in both a) and b) above, and would count as Pass only against the rolls of those who are. For anyone who simply rolled Need or Greed like before, this wouldn't change their personal outcome based on what they rolled in any way, except for increasing their odds of success in certain scenarios.

Which is a massive change and arbitrarily penalizes certain players.

I Need/Greed on items in dungeons that aren't an upgrade for a class I plan on using because I turn those items into seals that I use to buy mats that I sell to raise money to buy materia that I infuse into my sphere scroll to obtain my Novus; which is a roundabout way of saying that: yes, in a very indirect way those items ARE in fact, helping me upgrade.

Then there's all the people on crafting classes who need to complete their crafting books for upgrades, or max out their desynthesis skill...

The game can't read people's minds and figure out for what purpose they're rolling on certain loot. And even then, who's determining what gets greater priority? Does gearing an alt class take priority over outfitting a main with a Novus? Does DoW/DoM take precedence over DoH/DoL? Where does vanity, furniture, and chocobo raising go?

If you need gear for that class, run as that class. Otherwise greeding is the fairest option available.

[Yonko]

lol the fact that there are loots in dungeons is funny because we enter as a group but only a few will leave with something, but its not quite like that though because a dungeon with 4 ppl in it might even have more than 4 loot treasure chests, but because of the Luck system that we have a single player might get almost everything. I as with a player in the Labyrinth of the Ancients who got almost everything, my friend that was in the dungeon with me was like "wth? he's getting everything" but then one time I entered the Labyrinth and (I didn’t even know what being a bard was like, Lv0 ) I got almost EVERYTHING that was for a bard cuz I was just greeding and it was just giving it to me LOL. Sometimes a dungeon will drop something for a single class (which pisses me of) and on that day I had basically the whole (iLv80) gear of a bard without having a single Lv on it so I was forced to join the guild and do the class hahaha

I was the only one to get loot when my group cleared T6 last night. (2 healer pieces and the other healer has BiS thanks to hunts).

[Velo_Vandore]

Here's another approach. Assuming that we all agree the person with an alt WHM deserves less priority than the person playing the WHM currently, but extra priority over those just greeding for GC seals / desynth, what about the following system:

A staff drops which is for CNJ / WHM.

As normal, the CNJ / WHM will see:

• Need
• Greed
• Pass

The person with cnj / whm unlocked at the relevant level (or just below) will see:

• Need - perhaps a different colour (but not essential)
• Greed
• Pass

As normal, the person with no CNJ / WHM will see:

• Need - greyed
• Greed
• Pass

Essentially there's two types of need now (need for the current cnj / whm - (higher priority), and need for the player with a cnj / whm alt class (lower priority, but still automatically beats any greed). If the player with the alt cnj / whm and the current cnj / whm both need, the current cnj/ whm will always win the item. If the current cnj / whm doesn't hit need then the players who have alt whm can roll with greater priority than those greeding just to be greedy.

The need / greed / pass system is very familiar to players and adding "want" could confuse things. With this system I would always be able to greed without feeling bad for the player who could have used the item for their alt job. To me, it's horrible when everyone passes and an item is lost, but then some people has expressed they don't want the item even if it'll get discarded otherwise, so the pass option should stay.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

It's not like people are throwing away a Novus relic. No one feels bad about tossing items away because you can just get it again in a future run.

[Aika_Nakamura]

I'd like to see this, because I have times like this constantly. I'm determined to eventually get all of the classes I can to level 50 (what life?) and I'm farming as much gear as physically possible, but sometimes in my hoarding I feel guilty, and try to ask if anyone else needs this. Like in Crystal Tower, I'd like to farm gear for my future Dragoon (that will eventually be a thing I swear), but it drops so often and so many people seem to need it that I hate to just greed on it.

Granted, most people don't try to act like good Sumerians and "want" an item, but it might help someone. I think the looting system should just be more flexible in general, but if I had to pick this or nothing, I'd pick this.

[Yonko]

If they just let us change our rolls this wouldn't be needed.

So if everyone were to greed and then someone says they actually want it you could just pass. As it is once you hit greed if your not at the end of the dungeon to leave there is no way to ensure it goes to the person that needs it.