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    Kensei's Avatar
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    Kensei Oppa
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    1.18 Bittersweet.

    So we are being forced to group again just like in XI. I got CON and THM to 20 these past couple of days to be able to solo decently and it was for nothing. Did you see that MP cost? Aside from mages I don't think we can solo anymore.

    Also I want to say that I feel for THMs. You guys got nerfed to absurd levels. I understand SE is again forcing a healer in PTs and getting CON back into the picture but really this is the classical scenario were Devs go overboard and take a class from OP to below average in a single patch instead of gradually adjusting.

    We'll see how this plays out when we get to try this but for now it's a bittersweet feeling.
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    i'm pumped about being forced to group.. sorry this isn't a single player game! I logged off many times because I had to solo everything and there was no option for group play..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forbin View Post
    i'm pumped about being forced to group.. sorry this isn't a single player game! I logged off many times because I had to solo everything and there was no option for group play..
    Sorry, this isn't correct! It's a hybrid. The concept behind FFXIV is that it can cater to group play via dungeons and solo play via leves--at least it is supposed to. Kensei may have a point thogh (we'll need to play the post-1.18 game to be sure): with the changes to the battle system, solo and casual play may be very difficult indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cidolphus View Post
    Sorry, this isn't correct! It's a hybrid. The concept behind FFXIV is that it can cater to group play via dungeons and solo play via leves--at least it is supposed to. Kensei may have a point thogh (we'll need to play the post-1.18 game to be sure): with the changes to the battle system, solo and casual play may be very difficult indeed.
    I've played FFXI since jp launch and very casually for the past 5 years and have a Relic weapon.. You can play any game casually if you want. The casual group just thinks they need everything RIGHT NOW! because I don't wanna actually have to work for it.. I wanna blow through all the content and move on to the next Casual friendly game.. I myself actually like grouping up, making friends, enjoying the game for many years, and working towards something that feels REWARDING. Yes it took me close 5 years to get a relic weapon.. but so what, I had a blast making friends, helping out, and just playing casual.. On days I couldn't spend 2-3hrs I'd work on other stuff. It's an MMO, it is what FF fans have come to expect from SE MMO's there are plenty of other games out there that cater to the GIVE IT TO ME NOW! crowd.. go try em out. I hope they continue to make these kind of changes.. Signed a VERY casual player(i currently get an hour or two a day to play and some days none at all......)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forbin View Post
    I've played FFXI since jp launch and very casually for the past 5 years and have a Relic weapon.. You can play any game casually if you want. The casual group just thinks they need everything RIGHT NOW! because I don't wanna actually have to work for it.. I wanna blow through all the content and move on to the next Casual friendly game.. I myself actually like grouping up, making friends, enjoying the game for many years, and working towards something that feels REWARDING. Yes it took me close 5 years to get a relic weapon.. but so what, I had a blast making friends, helping out, and just playing casual.. On days I couldn't spend 2-3hrs I'd work on other stuff. It's an MMO, it is what FF fans have come to expect from SE MMO's there are plenty of other games out there that cater to the GIVE IT TO ME NOW! crowd.. go try em out. I hope they continue to make these kind of changes.. Signed a VERY casual player(i currently get an hour or two a day to play and some days none at all......)
    And the hardcore group doesn't understand that they're backwards rationale is illogical and unconstructive in the current day and age.

    In regards to your earlier post, if you were logging off because you were forced to solo that says more about the player than the cold, hard, fact that grouping was the only viable way to level pre patch when you advanced past ~30. I can tell you didn't play, you were likely hiding your head in the sand in the backwater game, final fantasy xi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seikninkuru View Post
    And the hardcore group doesn't understand that they're backwards rationale is illogical and deconstructive in the current day and age.
    Explain why an opinion in that where a person who enjoys hard work to rewards is backwards or irrational.
    Explain to me how "in the current day and age", the process of setting up and achieving distant goals is invalidated and you're not supposed to enjoy it.
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    I want to play when I want to play. I don't want to sit around all day scratching my butt and waiting for ls members to log in or random people to invite me.
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    Shade Hikari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forbin View Post
    i'm pumped about being forced to group.. sorry this isn't a single player game! I logged off many times because I had to solo everything and there was no option for group play..
    This right here. Solo content sure, but I WANT some form of increased group content.
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    XI - Darkshade - Shiva
    XIV - Shade Highwind - Figaro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forbin View Post
    i'm pumped about being forced to group.. sorry this isn't a single player game! I logged off many times because I had to solo everything and there was no option for group play..
    I agree!!

    MMO means Massive Multilayer Online!!! If you want a Single-Player game, go play FFXIII
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    Soube Miseux
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    I'm done now. After everything I've put up with, not being able to solo a single monster is just too much. This game is done for me, later everyone.

    And sorry to all my friends on Besaid, I'm gonna miss you all.
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