Future of Coil in DF

[Ooshima]

Even in it's nerfed state there is plenty to learn in T1-5. The notion that people learn nothing with it nerfed and with the Echo is quite frankly, a bunch of BS. It's still harder content than anything that comes before it, maybe with the exception of the EX primals. Just because you see bad players doesn't mean they're eternally stuck in some state of being terrible, without ever learning anything.

Well, if there are so much things to learn, we should be seeing a higher percentage of players clearing Turn 5. Which in fact, we aren't.

Yes, T1-5 are still harder than any content around, maybe except Titan EX. But I'm looking at the finer details here. In Turn 1, I've seen lots of players who doesn't bother learning how to anticipate when High Voltage will come even though it is easy to tell, and get prepared to silence it. Nope, these lot of players don't learn nor bother to learn and just ignore it, leaving it to the poor healer to raid heal and Esuna the paralysis away from him/herself and the tank.

I have seen tanks who doesn't know how to effectively rotate their CDs on Turn 1 and 4 and causes suddenly and drastic drop in their HP. Bless them that they have echo to beef up their HP and many times, experienced healers to heal them back (I've got to thank Echo for this too). I've been mostly playing as a WHM in the Echo'd 1st coil for 30-50 games because things like Healing Choker and Earring refused to drop even after playing 20 times of each of the turns. Have seen a lot of these players who are simply LOL and when you tried to teach them or give them a tips or two, they still derp much or even reply you things like "having access to silence and knowing how is another story", which aren't I giving you tips to know how? You should be learning how YOURSELF by the way, it is your own initiative. Just because me and my healer partner can heal them through doesn't mean that they should continue playing in this manner. Which is essentially what I call learning nothing out of it.

IDK about you - you doesn't seem to have stepped into 2nd coil yet. Maybe when the day you do and experience the difference between 2nd coil and 1st coil, you might come to understanding that 2nd coil will well destroy these players if they carry such attitude and play style over. And what you will get is more QQ about how tough 2nd coil and what not because they haven't been learning the proper techniques.

Those groups that have cleared the 1st coil without Echo (and even doing T2 rot passing method) are still struggling with T7 and some T8. I don't expect much from groups who just barely survive the 1st coil with Echo.

Echo is just there, provided by SE to push people through content. Note the word push. It is to merely lessen the difficulty to pass the gate that gated them previously, so that they wouldn't complaint or feel lagging behind, and let them have the access to the new content in the new patches (afterall, they are paying customers). Note the word again, letting them have access. All in all Echo is mainly pushing them and letting them have access to new contents. But Echo is unable to prepare them for the new content in its current difficulty unlike the other players who cleared the old content without Echo do. The un-Echoed 1st coil and Titan/Ifrit EX really taught players a lot of things (and note, in i90 and lesser gears), especially with similar mechanics appearing in 2nd coil and Levi EX, these players are actually better managing them.

This includes me. I greatly thank especially Titan EX. I started as a dragoon and I'm the kind of bad dragoon people would flame me all over. But things like Titan HM and EM taught me a great deal about dodging, anticipating, and pushing myself to deal greater DPS to the point that I've become more proficient in what I do, being able to sell runs etc.